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2016 USA Presidential Debate: Trump vs Hillary

Lord Vectra

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I have faith in Trump. In my 16 years of living, I have NEVER been so hyped for someone, and I'm not even a hype person.

 

People say Trump is racist, sexist, and whatever "-ist" you can think of, but it's not true.

 

Syria

I believe in eliminating radical Islamic terrorism. I support deporting Syrian refugees. America is and will always be #1 target of terrorist organizations, and it is America #1 job to make sure it and it's people are secure. Les replace that with black refugees, and I was a black refugee, I will vote for Trump and pack my bags. I will leave and come back. Trump isn't saying they can't come back after the ISIS war is over.

 

People say "He's racist towards Muslims!" In order for someone to be racist, their reasoning has to be racist. His reasoning is that most of the terrorists are Muslims (which is a fact). He said to send them back until we got this ISIS business done with, because you cannot tell me the none of the Syrian refugees are terrorist. Hillary's logic is "We will keep accepting Refugees even though it put American lives in danger," I'm not saying American lives are worth more than anyone else, but America must protect itself from unwanted terrorist. If you support letting in refugees, you shouldn't complain when we get bombed or massacred by some Syrian Refugee who happened to be ISIS because American is the ONLY one that blindly let them in.

 

If it was black refugees and not Syrians. If i was a refugee, I would vote for Trump 100% and pack my things. Then, when things are over, I will be moving back to America. I understand America's need to protect itself from ISIS, because we are and forever will be the #1 target from any and all terrorist corporations.

 

Sex/Race

He's not racist, and he is not sexist. I hear about what he said about groping women 11 years ago, but everyone talks like that. A lot of women I know talks like that. Him and Hillary are both people with personal lives; they are not goody-tissue actors; they aren't acting for Disney or Nickelodeon. I talk sexually dirty like that. Heck, I used to be in a democrat-dominated group that talked like that all day long which had females in it who talked dirtier than the guys. And it's not like he knew he was going to go for President 11 years ago anyways.

 

The reason people think he is racist is because of that idiotic term called "Political correctness." I don't care if someone says African American, Black, colored person, person of color, or you people. Blacks say "Us, the black people" and even says "You people" as in white people. Colored people is racist, but person of color is not is bogus beyond belief. This idea that blacks can't be racist is absurd. Political correctness is bogus.

 

 

 

Cop vs Blacks

Trump went to a Cleveland Church (black church) and was talking about the shootings in Oklahoma. He goes to say, that it was disturbing. He says not only are the people troubled so are the cops. To answer your question, he says “But maybe [cops] like that, people that choke, people that do that, maybe they can’t be doing what they’re doing.â€

So, he is saying they need to be fired and taken to court because whatever the reason is, they are not fit and/or can't handle it, and it shouldn't have happened. He criticized the bad cops and the radical BLM about killing cops. To Trump, killing cops isn't the answer because you need law and order, and he will make sure they get what they deserve because we also need peace between police and civilians.

 

Sweep Hillary's stuff under the rug?

Let's not forget Hillary called black people Super Predators (but everyone wants to forget that). We should talk about that and not that Trump said "you people" instead of "people of color" bc remember "colored person" is totally different. How about the time she called Trump supporters, like myself, irredeemable? That is the worst moral judgment you can make on anyone. How about the time she said Bernie supporters were basement dwellers? That translates to "losers in society". No, we must forget all about that, but let's not forget what Trump said 11 years ago.

 

How about the 38,000 emails? Hillary tries to be innocent, but if that was true, why does her staff doesn't need immunity deals? And why did Hillary's staff plead the fifth and Hillary doesn't remember?

 

How about how she played the woman card multiple times to win? That doesn't sound a little suspicious? It's one thing to win because your female, it's another to ask others to vote for you because you are female.

 

Immigration

The thing with immigration, no one is saying they can't come over; we are saying to come over legally. People say "Oh, they don't have nothing." It STILL doesn't stop them from coming over legally. If they are illegal and they do a crime, we can't track them. And you cannot tell me that out of ALL illegal immigrants, none of them are criminals. You cannot tell me 0% of them are criminals. Many illegal workers will steal IDs or give bogus info to hospitals for the medical bill. If id theft, the person is either forced to pay it or it comes out of the government's funding (taxes). If bogus info, it comes out of our taxes. If I'm correct, medical bills are a monster to pay.

 

Let's make a scenario. Mr. Fee is buying food for the family. The food he brings is meant for him, Mrs. Fee, Jordyn, and Justin (Let's say Jordyn and Justin are older and they pay rent). All of a sudden, the food/money he has isn't enough. Little does he know, Jordyn and Justin are sneaking in friends. The funds (economy) of the Fee family (America) is going down because Justin and Jordyn keeps secretly housing in friends. THEN, Mr. Fee see's that someone stole something, BUT since he doesn't know the person (illegal immigrant), the police (government) can't track them down. Justin and Jordyn (the U.S. people) won't speak up because they don't want the "nice guy" to go to jail, but let's forget about Mr. Fee tho. If he knew about the others, he could do a background check, and they could pay rent and his money (economy) would be working again.

 

Hillary says they pay taxes, but we can't track them so that is bogus, and I believe they get cash most of the time, so they can't track the $$$ if it's cash.

 

Before anyone say "They get jobs we don't want, and they don't get paid much. Just make them legal."

1) That is unfair to the people who've been waiting in line.

(And Trump says he will change the process because it is inefficiently done, so if he hated everyone, why would he do that?)

 

2) If we do make them legal, their wages would increase to minimum wage just as if anyone else was there to pick them.

 

Another thing, we get people and when we try to deport them back to their country, their country is all like "No, we don't want him." Trump is proposing "No, you will take him back because he is your people." This is not only with people who just crossed the border, but people who have crossed the border who are also rapists and murderers. If America isn't going to provide a national death penalty, then we can't be housing OTHER countries' criminals.

 

Abortion (Including Late-Abortion)

 

Its a matter of morality and societal impact.

 

As far as morality, its whether the mother should be able to kill an unborn baby which is a person. If she has the right to kill, the baby doesn't have the right to live. Many trump supporters, women and men of all ages (including grandmas), believes that it is murder. To them, its like if I muredered my cousin to keep myself alive.

 

As far as societal impact, if women are allowed to get an abortion ANY TIME in the 9 months, a lot (if not, most) will use it as 100% birth control, and will also be seen as "Oh, this baby is an inconvenience, so I'm going to kill the baby." And many doctors have said late-abortions are medically unnecessary.

 

Hillary says "I dont support late-abortions just as long as the Mother's health is taken in account." However, the supreme court ruled that "health" must include: physical, emotional, and psychological health. This will make it too vague and make the conditions worthless and make it 100% birth control.

 

Trump supporters aren't misogynistic even though people want to believe that and neither is Trump. The debate isnt a personal attack on women, so Trump isn't personally attacking all women and neither is anyone who agrees with him. Its like how anti-gun debate isn't a personal attack on either side.

 

Trump mocking disabled people

Misconception believe it or not. People believe he was mocking Serge Kovaleski, a disabled man. That's what the media wants to show you, but if Trump really was mocking him, Trump's arms would've been still because Serge cannot move some of his muscles. Involuntary movement is not part of Serge's disability. Serge also found no problem with the impersonation which was directed to him. Another thing, if you impersonate a person, any person, you must impersonate them fully. If someone impersonate a man in a wheelchair, they need a chair or, otherwise, an actual wheelchair to impersonate.

Impersonate =/= mocking.

 

Another thing, this is his response:

 

Trump disrespecting U.S. Veterans

He wasn't. That was totally out of context. A few months ago, my dad (whose a veteran), told me that he seen some men commit suicide. My dad's exact words were "They just couldn't handle it." If you go to war, and come back with PTSD, and go crazy, then you couldn't. I know I can't handle war, so I wouldn't dare try. Some people don't know because, sometimes, a person doesn't know whether they would be able to take it until it happens.

 

Some can handle the military and some can't. That is a fact because if it wasn't, soldiers wouldn't have committed suicide for getting yelled very aggressively by the sergeant or after seeing someone die.

 

Trump was not saying they were weak. He was saying they couldn't handle it. If a police officer started going crazy and did reckless behavior and actions due to what he has seen, then he couldn't handle it. Like I said, I can't handle it but that doesn't make me weak. I can't handle being a cop or fireman but that doesn't make me weak.

 

Videos I recommend watching

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

White men under attack

To be honest, that is why Trump is getting so much hate by the media. He is a rich white man and people label rich white men as evil and cunning. If that's not racist, I don't know what is. If affirmative action isn't a slap in the face, I don't know what the heck is then,

 

White men in America are under attack, especially, in College campuses. They are treated poorly in gender studies, ethnic classes, and the general public. This idea that minorities(Spanish or black) can't be racist is absurd. The logic to some radicals is: If a black person say you are racist, you are. With that, when i hear "You're racist" and I know my white folk isn't racist, I like to go up and say "he isn't." They either choke or say I'm blind. When I ask why they have say my friend is racist, I hear crickets. Then they say "because he's white." If THAT is not racist, I don't know what is. At the end, they either choke or say I'm blind. Yeah, that's a fine way to make your point.

 

"Sorry, Bob, we must accept Tyrome because he's black." You'd might as well tell white people in schools, "Get used to hearing that. Remember, you're a majority, and so we put things against you due to it."

 

Whites enslaved us

My family used to say to me "white people can't say black jokes, they enslaved us. It's only acceptable if blacks say white jokes." Really? If we're blaming whites for their ancestors, why not blame ourselves for our ancestors sending us to slavery? I hear crickets. Then they would say "You just don't understand." I would ask them to educate me, and they say "because they raped us." which is true. BUT our ancestors are still the ones who gave us away. EVEN if they didn't, why are we blaming today's whites? Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler? All Italians because of Mussolini? All Japanese people because of the radical guy during WWII (Can't ever remember his name lol)?

 

Racial double-standards is bull crap just like any double-standards. Many people I know in person knows I'm a strong believer in anti-double-standards. They should be eradicated and never come back because it's stuff like this that divides people.

 

White people are under attack and it is injust. I'm glad to be a black man because I'm in a better position to defend my white folks. JUST like how some slave owners helped slaves get away, but EVERYONE wants to forget about that. I want to help my white folks and I tell them that. I always hear "thank you." I hear it from real-life friends, teachers, and internet friends. It's on youtube, facebook, and everywhere.

 

A little off topic: Men are abused from the left; White men are abused from left and right.

Men, in general, are getting abused. This "You can't defend yourself against a woman, if you do, you're not a man." is absurd. So, women can abuse us, rape us, verbally attack us, falsely accuse us of rape to ruin our reputation, and they get off free or, otherwise, easily and MUCH easier than men, but when men just defend themselves, they are devils.You are taking the right to defend one's self away from men and then you take more stuff away from those who are white. Doesn't that not bother anyone? Is that just swept under the rug because of ancestors whose long since died? Isn't swept under the rug because "women are physically weaker." If so, why they hitting us, then? How come there is an increase of women abusing men?

 

CDC Study: More Men than Women Victims of Partner Abuse. SUMMARY: According to a 2010 national survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Department of Justice, in the last 12 months more men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men

http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/

 

My mom told me something very important: "Women only hit men because they believe the men won't hit back."

 

Final Note

I respect and I don't hate you for choosing Hillary over Trump. I just ask you respect and don't hate me for choosing Trump over Hillary.

 

Trump for USA Prez 2016!!!

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The Japanese guy i think your thinking of from WW2 is Hideki Tojo.

Also, I agree with you pretty much on all those points.

Trump for Prez

(please don't kill me)

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The Japanese guy i think your thinking of from WW2 is Hideki Tojo.

Also, I agree with you pretty much on all those points.

Trump for Prez

(please don't kill me)

That's his name. Yeah, it was Hideki Tojo.

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I´m voting for Hillary but don´t be ashamed for liking Trump, especially since you´re only 16. He´s a very convincing guy and garners a lot of loyalty from his supporters and alt right news outlets.

 

I obviously disagree with most of your reasons, I´d be lying if I said I didn´t, but there´s no getting through to anyone on this election. The recent rationalization of the "locker room" talk proved that. (imagine if Obama said those exact things in 2008 about grabbing without even waiting for consent and getting away with it because he´s a celebrity)

 

However, that abortion is a non-issue. No one supports or does abortion on the 8th or 9th month. Those are called C-sections. It´s a made up problem that doesn´t exist. He´s just trying re-ignite an old wedge issue from the 90s, but failed in doing so because he doesn´t understand basic OBGYN.

 

Also, I´m a veteran too, and one thing I seriously hate, and many veterans will agree with this, are draft dodgers who pull the super pro-military card when they get older. Some of us can over look that, but even those that do roll their eyes from time to time.

 

Anyways, have fun with the election. Learn it, study it, and see you on the other side. 

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I'm not speaking only for the 8th and the 9th month. It's abortion in general. I just added that in because I knew it was an issue for a small amount of time.

 

Locker room talk was 11 years ago in 2005. We can agree to disagree, but stuff like that is said all the time. Words =/= action. Obama had a race things against him, and Trump kinda has a stigma himself as an "evil rich white man." If you switched Trump and Obama, same thing. Obama followers would've defended it while the media blown it out of proportion.

 

Don't see a problem...you should hear some of the "girl talk" that goes on! Actions are what should be focused on! " - Pat, a friend of mine

 

"don´t be ashamed for liking Trump, especially since you´re only 16."

I don't know whether I should take offense to that or not, so Imma just take it as a compliment.

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It´s a compliment. Most teenagers don´t care about politics, and when they do, it´s more geared towards gaining the approval of friends and/or family. And from what I hear, some kids get bullied or made fun of for supporting Trump, which of course, is just wrong.

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I'm not American, but I would like to say somethings if it's no trouble.

 

About Syria

Refugees aren't coming out of they're country because they want. You said they're free to come back when the war is over. Well, they moved to other countries running from the war, trying to survive, in many cases because they disagree with the islamic extremists. Once the war is over they have no reason to stay away from their homes anymore. I understand the fear that terrorist may use this way to get in this countries, but saying that the most of them are terrorist is unfair. Besides, it has been seem that many ISIS terrorists are already inside our countries.

 

Sex/Race

I'm not a fan of political correctness myself, but you must understand why people don't like Trump saying the things he says running for president as he is.

 

Inmigration

I can't tell you they are any criminal among them, true. But I think it's not fair to treat them all as such. In medical attention, for example, here in Spain, they can access the basic services for free, even if they don't pay taxes. It's true that American health care has nothing in common with European one, so I don't want to say much about this.

 

Abortion

The first thing to understand in this matter is that women don't like to abort. You don't use abortion as kind of birth control. You just don't kill your baby because you changed your mind.

 

And about late-abortion. Mothers can't choose to abort this late because they fear for their health. It's doctors that evaluate the situation and decide wether an abortion is required of not. Geting rid of this option will leave out cases like the ones were it is known the fetus will be born dead and the birth becames pretty dangerous for the mother.

 

White men

I agree that the "possitve discrimination" is wrong and it is a form of discrimination after all. Just wanted to ask, is this gender studies and ethnic classes truly a thing in American College?

 

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To end, I'll say that I wouldn't like to see Trump as USA president, as most people here. Also I want to notice that since I'm not an english speaker I don't know how agreesive I could have sound, I meant no disrespect I assure you.

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I'm not American, but I would like to say somethings if it's no trouble.

 

About Syria

Refugees aren't coming out of they're country because they want. You said they're free to come back when the war is over. Well, they moved to other countries running from the war, trying to survive, in many cases because they disagree with the islamic extremists. Once the war is over they have no reason to stay away from their homes anymore. I understand the fear that terrorist may use this way to get in this countries, but saying that the most of them are terrorist is unfair. Besides, it has been seem that many ISIS terrorists are already inside our countries.

 

Sex/Race

I'm not a fan of political correctness myself, but you must understand why people don't like Trump saying the things he says running for president as he is.

 

Immigration

I can't tell you they are any criminal among them, true. But I think it's not fair to treat them all as such. In medical attention, for example, here in Spain, they can access the basic services for free, even if they don't pay taxes. It's true that American health care has nothing in common with European one, so I don't want to say much about this.

 

Abortion

The first thing to understand in this matter is that women don't like to abort. You don't use abortion as kind of birth control. You just don't kill your baby because you changed your mind.

 

And about late-abortion. Mothers can't choose to abort this late because they fear for their health. It's doctors that evaluate the situation and decide wether an abortion is required of not. Geting rid of this option will leave out cases like the ones were it is known the fetus will be born dead and the birth becames pretty dangerous for the mother.

 

White men

I agree that the "possitve discrimination" is wrong and it is a form of discrimination after all. Just wanted to ask, is this gender studies and ethnic classes truly a thing in American College?

 

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To end, I'll say that I wouldn't like to see Trump as USA president, as most people here. Also I want to notice that since I'm not an english speaker I don't know how agreesive I could have sound, I meant no disrespect I assure you.

Syria

Terrorism is in 32 countries. And everyone knows not all refugees are Terrorist and are anti-extremist. We know there are many, many decents among them. The question is, by America being #1 target by terrorism, can we, as America, take the risk and let in a influx of refugees come in? It's sad what is happening in Syria. Trump says it and so does his followers, but America can only do so much because America still needs to protect itself. America is trying to act "big brother" and, as a big brother, we try to protect the world, but we are only spreading ourselves too thin and making our borders weaker and protection weaker.

 

We are already funding 10+ countries. We are spreading ourselves way too thin and something has to be done about it.

 

I guess, at the end, it's a battle between morality (letting them in) and ethics (not letting them in). Both arguments are from good standpoints. Meaning, none of them has a negative standpoint on why. I just agree with the ethical side more than I do morality, in this particular argument.

 

Sex/Race

I certainly do and he said that he regrets some of them. Well, he doesn't say that specifically; he just says that he has regrets of things he did during this election which everyone can asume it's the suff he said. It's just that, if you ever look at what Trump says (especially nowadays), he is usually saying it to someone who said something to him.

 

There was an interview of Trump and Megyn Kelly and this was discussed. I advise anyone to see it.

 

Interview starts at 6:04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPvwdrlzCM

 

Immigration

We don't think ALL immigrants should be deported. Just the ones who came illegal. The reason I say that, is because it does hurt our economy. The main reason this is an issue is because we have so many illegal immigrants just crossing the border because it is too big.

 

Illegals don't pay medical bills because they don't have a social security number (because they didn't come over legally) and they can't make it known they are illegal. When the medical bill fails to ship to bogus info, he comes out of the taxes.

 

America's health care is a hell hole right now. Obama Care wasn't working and I knew this before Trump. I had a friend (Adult, ofc) who received a paper and it was unbelievable. It was too long ago to remember the exact price, but it was outrageous. Another friend (adult) said that "it was house payment on top of house payment." Premiums and deductibles are ridiculous.

 

Abortion

We are aware that there are many decent women. With America's hypersexual culture, we can say some will use it as 100% birth control. Especially since Doctors/Scientist been pushing for a 100% birth control for many years. Abortion would just be cutting the corner. To many people, it is seen as "this baby is inconvenient to me, so Irma abort it" because that does happen now. Maybe not the 8th and 9th month, but it does happen, and I know that because I know people (parents of friends and families) who got an abortion for their own inconvenience or was dang there close to getting it due to inconvenience.

 

As far as the mother dying, I don't know if I already said this, but people see it the same as if I killed my cousin to stay alive. If the baby will be dead before birth, I'm sure everyone can agree that you can get an abortion. Not everyone is looking at that; they are more focused on what can become of this as anyone should would promoting a particular idea.

 

White Men

Gender studies and Ethnic classes are real in America. They are hideous and you get nowhere in life with them. There is not one job you can go into with that, except to be a gender studies or ethnics teacher.

 

Ethnic classes basically say "White people are the reason for this not being taught enough in Schools."

 

Gender studies basically say "All men are misogynistic pigs. All men are rapists. They are the only reason women fail."

 

Merge them together, you have compete hatred for white men and only half hatred for black men. It is done in the halls, out side the buildings, in the streets, and many is done even in classes. Even the teachers, themselves, are likes the two I mentioned above. When it comes to radical BLM, Feminists, and Social justice warriors, they aren't huge in population, but they are indeed in powerful positions.

 

Two are news moderator; they have plagued Twitter (Twitter will soon shut down because they can't find a buyer due to their submission to the radical); some are CEO's of companies; some of them are teacher; I hope none of them are principles; and some in the general population.

 

The worst thing of all of this, is that radical feminists, SJW's, believe that we should throw away our "innocent until proven guilty" system and believe the rape victim immediately. They want to go straight to the sentencing. If this ever happens, I will leave America because that provokes a society like the Red Scare or the Witch hunt.

 

They say:

#KillAllMen

#MenTears

"I bathe in men tears"

"I drink men tears"

"I love hating men because they are evil."

 

They would have pictures of them drinking something with men tears labeled on the cup. You want to talk about sexism? Do you know what's funny? Twitter doesn't ban any of the following, but when someone says "That's not true", they get either blocked from that person, suspended, or banned; and that is exactly how it works all the time. If some men were sexist, I would come to the conclusion that where every man is sexist, the woman that created that was either just as, if not, more sexist.

 

I'm not saying there aren't evil men, but it's not all. And its funny how they don't look at the radical women... oh wait, I forgot. those women are people who agree with men. They are like "blacks joining the KKK." I get a kick out of that one.

 

"Blacks can't be racist."

This just shows that you are the racist. You will never say this unless you are justifying your racism.

 

*Takes breathe*

Don't go to them classes lol

 

As you can see, I can talk about gender/ethnics all day. Probably more than politics to be honest.

 

To end, I'll say that I wouldn't like to see Trump as USA president, as most people here. Also I want to notice that since I'm not an english speaker I don't know how agreesive I could have sound, I meant no disrespect I assure you.

Pfft, you're fine. You should hear what people say about my white folks who support Trump. "You're racist and you hate women!" That has been engraved in the minds of so many people because the amount of terrifying brainwashing is done in college where they go and be/do big things with their radical ideas. They say racism and sexism, but they seemed to have never looked in the mirror.

 

I love everyone no matter their choice. I just ask you love me no matter what mine is. We have a racial divide and a gender divide. The LAST thing America need is a political divide that is as horrid, if not, more horrid than the radical groups who only seek to make America a battleground amongst all people. And they want to start by hindering free speech which is #1 Amendment because it is America's #1 principle.

 

*takes breathe*

Don't go into them classes XD

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I have a black supremacist friend from my old platoon. When he got out, he listened to a section of the extreme left and now believes white people are an inferior form of humans because of Neandarthals. When I confronted him about this obviously being racism, he rationalized that he couldn´t be racist because he was black. So, yeah, I agree with conservatives with the extreme left being dangerous, anti-free speech, and just overall melodramatic. Us progressive liberals call them regressives for a reason.

 

That said, a Trump presidency will not stop the extreme left. In fact, it will add fuel to the fire. Give them a target to rally behind. A cause. Further their victimhood. Make their 5 out 10 issues into 6s or even 7s. Trump bolsters both the extreme left as a villain and the extreme right by legitamising their conspiracy theories.

 

Which, let me talk about our extreme right for a second. In the United States, our extreme right wing conservatives believe Obama or Hillary is coming to take their guns and enact martial law, and yes, those people are real. Seriously. I´ve talked to them, and let me tell you, they are far worse than the extreme left as a whole. I´ll take a self hating college kid trying to look cool over a middle aged man who has multiple guns and actual hatred in his heart. One that watches infowars on a regular basis. And these people, these deplorables as Hillary correctly put it, all support Trump, and were instrumental in getting him through the primary.

 

Man, this is a lot of politics... and to be honest... I´m kind of done. I got to get back to my game. This new update is huge and I got a lot of work to do. Nice talking with you though. Peace.

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The fact that you have to defend Trump for accusations of racism, abuse and hatred towards women, religions and black people is probably enough to assume something isn't right about him.  Also, the only reason people know him is because the media use it as a surprise story to get viewers. It's completely insane.

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While everyone is fighting over what are possible two of the worst presidential candidates in history, let's not forget that the are other choices on the ballot, the country is not actually two parties or die, or you could vote for one of the other hundreds of millions of citizens who are not completely despicable people. The two parties work hand in hand using a centuries old divide and conquer technique and fear tactics. Neither have genuine solutions and in this day and age why are we still using a system where one person has control of what over THREE HUNDRED MILLION people are doing? I don't think we need a new president. We need a new system.

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Hmm... I could make a bunch of counterpoints here regarding these various issues, but I'm not because they aren't really relevant. Why? The simple fact is Donald Trump has zero political experience, and a pathological liar who literally just makes up "facts" as he goes along. Name one instance he actually laid out any semblance if a plan to execute what he says he's going to do. I'll wait. He has zero idea of how to run a country, and his arrogance and absolute refusal to admit he's wrong. How is he going to deal with delicate and complex foreign policies? Rant and insult other nations leaders? He lacks both the experience and temperament to be even a mediocre leader of a democratic government. He'd probably make a great dictator, but that's not our government. Here's a scary thought. The POTUS is also commander-in-chief of our military. That commander-in-chief has access to our nuclear arsenal. Do you really want to give an arrogant hot heat nuclear weapons? 

 

Is he racist? At best he's a bigot, and a country that prides itself it striving for equal rights has no place for a bigoted leader. the best we can hope for is for civil rights to stagnate, but it very likely he will send us backwards.

 

I'm no totally sold on Hilary, but at least she actually has political experience, and a lot of it, and can properly navigate the very complex political arena. She's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. 

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@ebonknight- Yes, you can. And they won't win. I agree the Electoral College is obsolete, and well just plain stupid. For example, I'm in Illinois. it's a blue state, and that's definitely not changing this election, and probably not in the foreseeable future. So regardless of if I vote, the Dems get 20 electoral votes. More importantly, republicans get zero. ZERO. How does every vote matter exactly? If it was purely popular vote, at least your vote would count for something even if your party loses the state your vote still counts for something, and in a close race those close loses could add up to a win. 

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I have sympathy for Trump. I really do. But he absolutely is racist and absolutely is sexist... for a given value of racism and sexism anyway. See, here is the thing about 'political correctness', for better or for worst: It's kind of called that for a reason. There is a 'correct' way to do politics, and a 'incorrect' to do politics. This doesn't mean that everything should be seen as political or everyone should have to follow some arbitrary rules. It does mean however that if you are going to run for a public office people are going to expect you to watch what you say and how you say it.

 

Trump is simply incapable of doing so. He insulted, intentionally or not, too many people. It simply doesn't look good on him when he keeps making comments that seem to paint him as not respecting or actively looking down on large groups of people. He is consistently shown himself to be petty and unthinking. Is the common idea of 'political correctness' out of control to the point where it's actively harmful? Absolutely. But you can't just ignore it either. I don't think Trump or (most of) his followers are monsters. I do think that they have shown themselves over and over to be in their own little bubble and are unwilling or unable to put any more then a token effort to engage with anyone outside that bubble. And maybe that can ultimately be said of most social groups sure, but it still doesn't help them.

 

And honestly this is kind of a shame because Trump does have some policy ideas that are really interesting if nothing else. I am not sure I agree with them all, but if Trump was less combative and dismissive he would probably win. This isn't a problem for just Trump either. It's a problem for the whole Republican party. They have played to a shrinking base for decades and decades, fear mongering and saying outrageous things over and over. This is what happens when you don't even try to pay lip service to 'political correctness'. Like it or hate it, what you say and how you say it does matter.

 

And this is all giving Trump the benefit of the doubt about what he says. Talking sexually is one thing, but saying "I just go up and kiss them" and "Grab them by the pussy" is veering dangerously close to admitting assault. There are better ways to say 'I get lots of female attention'. The accusations about him may be complete bogus, but they may not be. Is it really any wonder people worry about that?

 

As for Hillary... have you actually read what she actually said? Sure I will give you that she expressed her disdain for (at least some) Trump supporters (and regretted it), but that basement dweller thing is totally inaccurate. She said a lot of Sanders supporters were young people who were forced to live in their parent's basement because they couldn't find a job because of the economy and how she understood their position. She never used the term 'basement dweller' and she was not putting them down. And really that is the problem. Hardly anyone actually pays attention to what Hillary is actually doing and just going by bias reports and quick judgements. Hillary isn't a saint, but the shit that has gotten slung in her direction for years is insane.

 

Still, if Trump were not, you know, Trump, he would probably win in a landslide. I remember reading an opinion piece about what he would be like as a even headed respectful person, even with most of his existing policies. Border security? Sounds like a great idea! Maybe less so the "build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" or "round up and deport everyone cause they are criminals and rapists", but in principle tightening the border and deporting the more criminal illegals isn't a bad idea. Renegotiating trade and defense deals and pulling out of having so many stupid wars? Wonderful! Okay maybe Trump seems to kiss Putin's ass a bit to some people, but maybe working with Putin is over all better for us then being antagonistic. The abortion issue? Okay, putting aside that there is a huge grey area of when the random collection of cells transforms into a 'person', I am not opposed to at the very least allowing the individual states or even cities to decide if they should allow it based on the community's common beliefs. But the 'ripping babies out of the womb' hardline attitude does show a lack of respect for the mother making that decision in some ways. Limiting immigration form regions that might let terrorists in? Okay, I can see the logic there, but focusing on the 'Islamic' part in 'radical Islamic terrorist' makes many of the peaceful Muslims here nervous that it's becoming a religious war.

 

On a side note: True speak time. Honestly I kinda think Islam is a pretty awful religion that has tenants that often end up encouraging, or doesn't do enough to discourage, this kind of radicalism and has all sorts of other rules which I find distasteful, but I could say the same to some degree or another for Christianity or just about every major religion. But I still have no problem with those who peacefully practice their religion, and the USA is supposed to respect and allow any religion to be fallowed without persecution. In addition not everyone form that region is even Muslim anyway and terrorist organizations are terrorist organizations regardless of what political or religions roots it may have.

 

But anyway, yeah. That is why Trump is failing. Not because his policies are necessarily all bad ideas, but because he is awful at selling his ideas to anyone who is not already on his side. He uses over the top rhetoric and poorly thought out promises and generally seems uninformed and impatient. He can say things that are thoughtful, even profound, but he follows it up with showing how little he knows or understands. And when he talks about the election being 'rigged' he shows even more how he has no sense of self-introspection or awareness of anything outside of his little bubble.

 

Hillary on the other hand... well she does tend to say anything that will endear herself to her audience at the time sometimes, but she also always seems prepared to back up her points, always seems to get the numbers, always seems to hedge her bets. Her policy isn't remarkable or one that seems like it will change much, but on the other hand Sanders and his supporters are really really pressuring her how. The idea that Sanders was shafted from the election is in a lot of people's minds, and you can bet Sanders and his followers are going to really push Hillary with every bit of influence they can. The only reason the Democratic party is not falling apart like the republican party seems to be is because Sanders decided to support Hillary and they both know it.

 

Also @ebonknight: The country practically is two parties or die and anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong. Sure third parties technically exist but they basically never win because of how votes are counted. Maybe this will change in the future but good luck with that. And everyone wants a new system. If you can come up with one that everyone will agree on and won't get blocked by people who abuse the current one be my guest. Also: Despite what you may think, the president isn't nearly as important as people make them out to be. There are three branches of government after all.

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The fact that you have to defend Trump for accusations of racism, abuse and hatred towards women, religions and black people is probably enough to assume something isn't right about him.  Also, the only reason people know him is because the media use it as a surprise story to get viewers. It's completely insane.

So, if a black person say you are racist, then you are? Am I correct on that? A person is racist, and if they try to defend themselves (or others try to defend him), then it proves he/she is racist? I believe people have the right to defend themselves against accusations, but hey, maybe that isn't a right anymore.

 

Black people are not enough. They aren't the Gods of Racism who can just point "your racist" to someone, and that person has no way to defend himself. Sounds a lot like the Witch Hunt except people have their reputation crushed (worst case scenario, they get into a fight) instead of being hanged. I feel bad for the white people where it was only a misunderstanding.

 

"You're racist!"

"No I'm-"

*Punches being thrown*

 

Hmm... I could make a bunch of counterpoints here regarding these various issues, but I'm not because they aren't really relevant. Why? The simple fact is Donald Trump has zero political experience, and a pathological liar who literally just makes up "facts" as he goes along. Name one instance he actually laid out any semblance if a plan to execute what he says he's going to do. I'll wait. He has zero idea of how to run a country, and his arrogance and absolute refusal to admit he's wrong. How is he going to deal with delicate and complex foreign policies? Rant and insult other nations leaders? He lacks both the experience and temperament to be even a mediocre leader of a democratic government. He'd probably make a great dictator, but that's not our government. Here's a scary thought. The POTUS is also commander-in-chief of our military. That commander-in-chief has access to our nuclear arsenal. Do you really want to give an arrogant hot heat nuclear weapons? 

 

Is he racist? At best he's a bigot, and a country that prides itself it striving for equal rights has no place for a bigoted leader. the best we can hope for is for civil rights to stagnate, but it very likely he will send us backwards.

 

I'm no totally sold on Hilary, but at least she actually has political experience, and a lot of it, and can properly navigate the very complex political arena. She's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. 

List of Trump's plans

  • Deport Syrian Refugees.
  • Deport Illegal Immigrants (being illegal is a crime within itself)
  • Stopping cops vs blacks by: Firing and making sure they get punishment, and telling the black community that just killing cops isn't the answer.
  • Change the immigrant system so it can be more efficient.
  • Change the voting system because it is flawed.
  • Raise taxes on imports so U.S. companies can't just leave and export to U.S. because we have little to no taxes.
  • Putting congressional term limits
  • He will invest in mental health treatment because he believes it will end U.S. Mass shootings
  • Veteran Healthcare needs an overhaul: clear out the executive level of the department of Veteran affairs. Wait times are too long and will try to to get more doctors who specialize in Women's health due to there also being female veterans.
  • Take out Obamacare because the premiums and deductibles makes it too expensive (which is true because i have adult friends who tried it).
  • Lobbyist need to be more restricted
  • Tokyo and Seoul should have nuclear weapons of their own so they don't have to depend on the U.S. to help them.
  • Abolish NATO because it is a horrible deal.
  • Increase minimum wage
  • Government must cut some of their spending habits
  • Do not cut social security or medicare benefits. Grow the economy to save those programs.
  • Sneak attacks are vital to hitting ISIS. Tell the public after the fact, or else the ISIS leaders are going to know about it and move somewhere else.
  • Gun Control: Ban assault weapons and slightly longer waiting period for purchase.
  • Greater alliance from Israel and increase sanctions on Persian State
  • Believes in people making their own wealth rather than money distribution. Believes that America, as a whole, can benefit by its own people making their own wealth and having their own drive. To sum it up, wealth creation and personal drive can benefit America.

There you go.

 

Also: Despite what you may think, the president isn't nearly as important as people make them out to be. There are three branches of government after all.

I'm well aware lol. Thought it's odd history classes seems to not talk about the other branches :/

 

Lianderson, I see your pain XD This isn't the only site I'm debating on. I debated 9 hours yesterday about politics and gender studies. I don't regret it because I like hearing other peoples' views on the presidential debate like right now.

 

@Kilo, as much as I love you, I haven't gotten any sleep due to me debating, so imma actually read it when I feel more awake. I can't sleep now because my sleep pattern will be off, so imma look at it tomorrow.

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Those aren't plans. They are ideas. How? How is he going to do all those things? I can say I plan to fly to the moon, but if don't have any clue on how I'm getting there, it's not really a plan.

 

There you go.

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Hehe... I will wait to see what you have to say, you better sleep. :3

 

Also: The reason the other two branches aren't talked about as much? Because in general they are about hammering out boring details and are composed of a lot of mostly interchangeable people that don't stand out as much. The president isn't even the only important person in their branch by a long shot, but they are the one with the clear personal branding who gets on tv and make speeches most of the time.

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  • Deport Syrian Refugees.

Deport Illegal Immigrants (being illegal is a crime within itself)

Go house-to-house and door-to-door to find these illegal immigrants and deport them back to where they came from. Same thing with Refugees.

  • Stopping cops vs blacks by: Firing and making sure they get punishment, and telling the black community that just killing cops isn't the answer.

Trump has to get the support of the judicial branch for this to happen (since they are the ones sending them to prison. Technically, he could push it with the "hate crime" laws, but I know he isn't doing that and that is too much of a slippery slope since everyone screams "Racist!", "Sexist!", "Homophobic!", "Transphobic!", and whatever "-ist" or/and "-obia" there is.

  • Change the immigrant system so it can be more efficient.

Just so we're clear, by immigrant system, I meant he wants the process of becoming legal more efficient. He hasn't specified specifics on this situation. However, he did say he will reform it to "historic norms", but there are 4 interpretations to that. The dominant ones people think of are: "Increase legal immigration by x% (I think it's 212%)" or "decrease legal immigration by 51%." Trump loves all races and has shown love to blacks and Mexicans. Trump has shown love to Muslims; He just doesn't like radical Muslims. Therefore, I don't think he's trying to make America an isolated country.

  • Change the voting system because it is flawed.

He plans to find a way to take away the super-delegates and have the democratic election be based on popular vote. (Through the ballot and the other branches may get involved too).

  • Raise taxes on imports so U.S. companies can't just leave and export to U.S. because we have little to no taxes.

Raise U.S. Tariffs so companies will stay in the U.S. America should/will push higher tariffs.

  • Putting congressional term limits

Hillary believes in the same thing. It would go on the ballot.

  • He will invest in mental health treatment because he believes it will end U.S. Mass shootings

Just how it sounds. He will personally invest in mental health treatment.

  • Veteran Healthcare needs an overhaul: clear out the executive level of the department of Veteran affairs. Wait times are too long and will try to to get more doctors who specialize in Women's health due to there also being female veterans.

Already said in the bullet point. He wants to wipe out executive level of the department of Veteran affairs and try to get more doctors to get less waiting times to help Veterans in Veteran Healthcare.

  • Take out Obamacare because the premiums and deductibles makes it too expensive (which is true because i have adult friends who tried it).

Through the ballot

  • Lobbyist need to be more restricted

He proposes five-year ban on executive branch officials and lawmakers who want to become lobbyists. He would go through the regular process any president would have to go through (Ballot).

  • Tokyo and Seoul should have nuclear weapons of their own so they don't have to depend on the U.S. to help them.

He will try to abolish the U.S. policy that Japan and South Korea can't get nuclear weapons. He says we spend way too much money helping other countries because we disallow them to have nuclear weapons. He says other allies should have nuclear weapons so America isn't so "big brother" to them.

  • Abolish NATO because it is a horrible deal.

Kinda goes with the last bullet. America isn't getting their fair share of the deal and will demand their fair share of the deal. Believes that other countries should do more for the U.S. if we spend all this money to send our troops here, there, or wherever a war is at (U.S. protects A LOT of countries). (Ballot)

  • Increase minimum wage

How any president will do: the normal process (Ballot).

  • Government must cut some of their spending habits

I don't know what spending habits he is talking about. I do know Government has horrible spending habits, so he could be talking about all of them. The best any president can do is go to the places like congress, senate, or most likely the pentagon (Pentagon been getting the most hate from it's spending habits, if I'm correct). I'm not sure if this would go through ballot, but I'm thinking it would.

  • Do not cut social security or medicare benefits. Grow the economy to save those programs.

"Grow the economy" as in new jobs, lower debt, lower taxes. He believes if America gets its spending habits together, then the economy will rise up and higher taxes won't be needed.

  • Sneak attacks are vital to hitting ISIS. Tell the public after the fact, or else the ISIS leaders are going to know about it and move somewhere else.

Kind of self-explanatory. He's going to ask the government to tag along with him. They did with Obama and Osama, so I'm sure there isn't an objection in this case.

  • Gun Control: Ban assault weapons and slightly longer waiting period for purchase.

How gun control was done before. It'll be done by the normal process.

  • Greater alliance from Israel and increase sanctions on Persian State

He believes we must defend Israel no matter what. I'm not familiar on the increase sanctions because Hillary and Trump been talking more about Russia and Iran more than anything else, so Israel kinda got swept under the rug (no respect for Israel lol)

  • Believes in people making their own wealth rather than money distribution. Believes that America, as a whole, can benefit by its own people making their own wealth and having their own drive. To sum it up, wealth creation and personal drive can benefit America.

Creating jobs, lower taxes, etc. 

 

  • BONUS: Forgot to mention, that Trump wants a different system for prisons. Prisons shouldn't get paid for the amount of prisoners. He believes some people are found guilty just to feed prisons (this has been a conspiracy for a LONG time).

He rarely talks about this one because it's not one of the major issues talked about, so I don't really know how he would do this. It's hard because for it to be true, the Judicial branch would have to be corrupted with the Prisons which means Trump would need support of the other branch to get a handle on it.

  • BONUS 2: Death Penalty needs to be nationwide across America.

Same as Bonus 1. I would just assume normal process since he's taking it from states and making it national. Neither candidate talks about this that much (I don't even know if Clinton ever mentioned it), so... yeah XD

 

I hope I answered them all effectively. If anything I say you feel is either vague or not really what you were looking for, I will happily explain it in a different way.

 

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You can´t deport people seeking asylum after they're already here. We have a strict vetting process and only 10,000 Syrian refugees. Germany took a million. If anything, we need to take in more to help out Europe.

 

Also, you can´t deport millions of people who´ve been here for years... that´s just... cold. Almost all of them have family here. And you sure as hell can´t organize a government force to go "door to door" to enforce this mass deportation. (which will also flood the legal system for years) I´m from south florida and I´ve seen a lot of these "illegal" immigrants. Grew up around em. I went to school with a lot of their kids and honestly, they're not a problem. Definitely not big enough for such drastic, divisive, and expensive measures. 

 

The next three I agree with.

 

The tariff one I have to look into it more. (tbh, it´s kind of funny that in the last year, the right have done a 180 degree turn on this issue, and now act like this was always their stance)

 

The next 3 I agree with as well.

 

Now Obamacare is moderate nonsense. It´s a half measure at best. Liberals are 100% correct on this like they are on private prisons. Just take money out of it. There should be no business that makes money out of the sick and dying. Like, seriously. It´s not even a debate, it´s common sense.

 

Renegotiating who pays what is one thing, by getting rid of NATO altogether is a terrible idea. What´s next, get rid of Geneva Conventions? Land war agreement? The U.N? Sorry, but stuff like that is a deal breaker.

 

As for minimum wage, he´s not raising it at all. If he is, it must be recent because he´s afraid of losing. Same with his racist birther claims. 2007, 2008, whatever. 2016, and NOW you accept the 1st black president is from here? ...yeah.

 

As for social security, liberals are not gonna cut something they went through hell to make. This is partisan tactics meant to scare old people. The only real threat to social security, is making it privatized like some Republicans want to do. It´s depressing how backwards this topic is and has been since I was a 16 year old kid on internet forums 13 years ago.

 

I would type more, but this is too macro. Bring it down to just one issue at a time and it´ll be easier to debate.

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I would type more, but this is too macro. Bring it down to just one issue at a time and it´ll be easier to debate.

Blame Lonequeso, fam. He wanted that block of text XD

 

@Kilo, i agree that tone plays a part in it. Things always became dramatic if u were one tone off. Im not saying i wont deal with political correctness, im just saying i dpnt agree with it to a certain extent. Crackers, coon and niggers are the exceptions.

 

I don't think he is but we can debate about that all day so its best to let it go. I know Hillary wasnt a saint and I know Trump isnt. Im not a die-hard "my team is perfect!" Bc ANY team or team member has their flaws somewhere in some way.

 

@Lianderson; Im still in support with his immigration and refugee plan. U may call me cold but thats how i feel. Wat ur saying is, if we get any new illegal immigrants, as long as they hav a kid before we catch them, they automatically become legal with will undermine our entire immigration system. I believe America is too soft, but ofc, thats very unpopular to say.

 

Hillary started the birth certificate debate. Ik not saying Trump shouldve continued for as long as he did, but he did apologize. I accept the apologies of Hillary. Its just some i, myself, have a hard time getting ovet.

 

If u dont accept Trump's apologies, i umderstand bc some things are hard for ppl to get ovr wen its a matter of voting.

 

 

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  • Deport Syrian Refugees.
  • Deport Illegal Immigrants (being illegal is a crime within itself)

Go house-to-house and door-to-door to find these illegal immigrants and deport them back to where they came from. Same thing with Refugees.

 

Who exactly is going house-to-house? Literally knock on everyone's door to question them?

A. The logistics of that in itself is nowhere near practical. 

B. Police can't just go up to someone's house and interrogate them w/out probable cause. That's harassment. Enacting a law that would allow them to do so would be stripping civil liberties from every citizen. Kinda like how Hitler did.

  • Stopping cops vs blacks by: Firing and making sure they get punishment, and telling the black community that just killing cops isn't the answer.

How? I see no actual plan in place to achieve this? Tell the black community not to kill cops? That's the big solution? Are you for real? Oh, if we ask them nicely, I'm sure they'll stop. This is an incredibly volatile and delicate issue that takes a very careful and delicate solution not settling a schoolyard dispute.

 

Change the immigration and voting systems. Again, how? Anyone can just say something is flawed and needs to be fixed. Coming up with a feasible plan and then convincing the public and lawmakers that it will benefit the nation is much much harder.

 

He plans to find a way to take away the super-delegates and have the democratic election be based on popular vote. (Through the ballot and the other branches may get involved too).

 

Yet again. How? I asked you to show me an example of how he plans to accomplish his goals. That's three in a row that are nothing more than talk, and the first is impractical and would create an oppressive government, and sounds frighteningly similar to how Hitler stripped people's rights and rounded up Jewish people. 

 

 

  • Raise taxes on imports so U.S. companies can't just leave and export to U.S. because we have little to no taxes.

Raise U.S. Tariffs so companies will stay in the U.S. America should/will push higher tariffs.

  • Putting congressional term limits

Like it or not, big business has a lot of influence in politics. How is he going to overcome this.?

How much is he going to raise taxes? Across the board or on certain items? Yay for term limits! Pushing to get it on the ballot is a good idea. Congress isn't going to like it though, so I'll be very impressed if either candidate could pull it off. Same with restricting lobbyists, but again, easy to say and much harder to actually do. Honestly, Clinton has the better chance because she actually has political experience. 

 

  • Tokyo and Seoul should have nuclear weapons of their own so they don't have to depend on the U.S. to help them.

No one should have nuclear weapons. Including us. The more people that have them, the more likely someone will actually use one, and our planet is strained enough as it is. I'd prefer not having as nuclear Holocaust. Just having nukes would not ensure Japan and South Korea's safety either. Japan doesn't have a military at all. They aren't allowed to along with Germany because every time they do, they try to invade people. South Korea doesn't have much of an army, and our presence is needed right now, and the foreseeable future. You really want to help them, assassinate Kim. Or pull our troops out and leave them to the wolves =P

 

  • Abolish NATO because it is a horrible deal. 

Ooorrr... If he feels we have a bad deal, negotiate a better one. Getting rid NATO entirely because he's not happy with it? Riiigghhtt...

 

  • Increase minimum wage

How any president will do: the normal process (Ballot).

 

YAY!!! it really has to be increased. It's $8.50 in IL. It's simply not enough to live on which is the point of minimum wage.

 

How any president will do: the normal process (Ballot).

  • Government must cut some of their spending habits

I don't know what spending habits he is talking about. I do know Government has horrible spending habits, so he could be talking about all of them. The best any president can do is go to the places like congress, senate, or most likely the pentagon (Pentagon been getting the most hate from it's spending habits, if I'm correct). I'm not sure if this would go through ballot, but I'm thinking it would.

 

Somehow, I don't think he does either let alone how much to cut spending by. Note once agian the lack of specifics. 

 

 

  • Do not cut social security or medicare benefits. Grow the economy to save those programs.

"Grow the economy" as in new jobs, lower debt, lower taxes. He believes if America gets its spending habits together, then the economy will rise up and higher taxes won't be needed.

 

Again, how? He talks a lot, but actually says very little. Anyone can ramble on about things to change. I'm seeing very little on how he can achieve it.

 

 

  • Sneak attacks are vital to hitting ISIS. Tell the public after the fact, or else the ISIS leaders are going to know about it and move somewhere else.

​This one makes zero sense. The military NEVER lets the public know beforehand when they are making a targeted attack on an ISIS leader. So Trump is basically saying we're going to keep doing what we've been doing. Amazing plan, Mr. Trump. As for occupied cities, ISIS solders ain't going anywhere and they already know we or another military force is eventually coming.

 

He believes we must defend Israel no matter what. I'm not familiar on the increase sanctions because Hillary and Trump been talking more about Russia and Iran more than anything else, so Israel kinda got swept under the rug (no respect for Israel lol)

 

Global politics is an extremely complex and delicate balance. How do you expect someone with zero experience to possibly navigate it successfully? 

 

The prison system is in serious need for reform, but again, how? And again with is lack of experience I have little faith he could actually accomplish anything, I'm for the Death penalty, but that falls under state's rights so he cannot touch that. He can only urge states to do so. 

 

 

 

Trump has very few actually plans, and one of the few makes him sound eerily similar to Hitler. Like I said before, he really has no idea what he's doing. Yet you trust him to be able to accomplish any of is goals? Anyone can just say they're going to do stuff. He has done little to back up his plans and promises. Add his temperament, misogyny, and bigotry to that, and you have a formula for catastrophe.

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He raises tariffs across the board. Im not trying to make a bigger wall of txt. If u want it super, 100%, play-by-play, second-by-second, then look it up.

 

And im not familiar enough with govt spending so idk how either will change that.

 

U say "zero experience" but if i replaced Trump with Hillary on some of these, u would be okay with them.

 

Military been saying, "we're attacking ISIS here." for months. And Hillary nvr said Trump was wrong bout dat and neither did Obama. They wouldve been called him on it if it was false.

 

Prison is complex and is, i think, private businesses. Not even Hillary knows how but she said she'll do it and admitted she didnt know, so ur gonna hav to blame them both then for that then.

 

He will increase economy by increasing jobs by stopping US companies from leaving. He will do dat with higher tariffs across the board by talking to, i believe congress (havent watched him in a minute cuz im taking a break from politics). Wat do u want after dat? Not even Hillary goes that deep and ive seen every debate and rally on both sides.

 

I dont agree with increasing minimum wage, but youll nvr agree 100% with any president. It'll just nvr happen and i accep that.

 

Trump calls it the "Nato Deal" and he already said he'll renegotiate. If the deals wont change, he will abolish it. He believe America is too soft at times and i agree.

 

Im sticking with his immigration amd refugee plan. Im sry if u hate me for it, but i do.

 

Nuclear weapons is war. "Rules of war" are bullcrap bc someone will always break them. Its for defense from other countries who will use them like Russia and Germany which are military powerhouses, so nuclear weapons are needed bc nuclear war exist whether US has it or not and Trump is right to want to allow Japan and South Korea to defend themselves.

 

I think i answered everything.

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You still haven't responded to my point though. As I said, his plans and policies aren't my problem (mostly). My problem is that he seems to be really really bad at paying attention to anyone who doesn't already agree with him. Trump just seems wildly antagonistic to so many people. He isn't a monster, but he is in his own little bubble with no understanding of reality. Hillary seems pragmatic enough that she knows she needs to pay attention to the way the winds are blowing. Trump seems more interested in wildly forcing his way in spite of anyone else's interests. Trump is an authoritarian dictator waiting to happen. 

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I never said I disagreed on all of them. I actually do agree with some. There's two problems though. The first I mentioned ad nausem already. Even if Trump has practical, feasible plans laid out,  I don't think he has much a chance of actually getting them passed. Congress is gridlocked as it is, and he has shown he is terrible at explaining his ideas, and again, that's because for the most part, he doesn't have any real plans laid out. He mostly just makes things up on the fly, and usually his "facts" are incorrect. 

 

Two, I said from the beginning that the issues are irrelevant. Partly his lack of experience, but mostly his temperament. This is not am man capable of making many calm, rational well-thought out and weighted decisions. He's incredibly defensive and reactionary. The simply lacks the character it takes to be president in a Democratic government. 

 

And answer Killozapit's point! Speaking of, I'm not so sure he isn't a monster. He is most certainly in his own litt- gigantic egocentric bubble. At the end of the day Donald Trump doesn't have the country's best interests in mind. He is only concerned about, and will always do what is best from Donald Trump. That kind of man has no place- nay- he has no right to be President. It'd be very hard to find a candidate that would be a worse option than him. 

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What, gigantic and not YUGE? :P But I am willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he genuinely does think he has the nation's best interests in mind. I just don't think he understands very well the idea of compromise or thinks about what the full impact of his plans may be.

 

Edit: Oh! It seems you did answer! I missed it...

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