rmvx-ace Cecillia: Cruel Miracle - Review

[user975483 26]

Cecillia: Cruel Miracle

~Demo Review~

 

TL; DR - Melodramatic story, nice artwork and atmosphere, but very, VERY boring.

 

Before playing the game:

 

I had heard practically nothing about this game or its creator other than a few screenshots posted
in the Screenshot Thread. I had a free night where I was bored and needed a break from writing the script
for my game. So, I decided to try out the demo of this out of curiousity. I heard a lot of good things posted
in the official thread, so it looked like it would be a good play.
 
Now, usually I wouldn't be talking about the contents of the actual thread, but I just had to bring this up.
To download the demo, you have to type in a password. You have to look for the password within the topic. It's easy,
but it was very annoying. If I wasn't amazingly bored, I would've just stopped right here and did something
else with my time. Why put a password on a PUBLIC demo? It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. 
Still, I was bored and hoping for some good entertainment, and still went on to download and play the game for myself.

 

It also confused the hell out of me why permission was needed to do an LP, or why there were so many

warnings and copyright notices all over the place, but whatever.

 

 

Actually playing the game:

I gotta say, the atmosphere is set up very nicely. The artwork is amazingly well done, and the music is
just top notch. Seriously, I could listen to the title screen's music for hours on end. However, the font
was a little annoying to read. I'd much rather read something a bit more cleaner, especially since it is a visual novel. 
 
Again, the artwork is amazing. The backgrounds are nice and detailed, but I noticed that there was some
slight pixellation when zooming out on the first CG. I honestly hate to bring this up, but I actually laughed out
loud when I first saw Cecillia's full body pic. Why is her chest comically bigger than her head? It made me
take the story a bit less seriously, but it's not a total issue seeing as I wasn't looking at the actual character
busts all that much. And this might be just me, but I thought all of 
 
Speaking of the story...ugh. A lot of the opening dialogue (ESPECIALLY before the title pops up) is annoyingly
melodramatic to the point where I almost couldn't take it seriously anymore. Really, it was nearing Twilight levels
of melodrama. Thankfully, it let up as the demo went on. I noticed that there were a lot of names and terms being
thrown around with little to no explanation. Add to that, the story jumps around randomly. Right before you actually
had the chance to start wanting to care about these characters or what's going on, you get flung into a different situation.

I also didn't get what was with all the random TV dead air sequences.
 
Eventually, I just stopped caring a little before the demo ended. I just flat out didn't care what happened

to any of these characters. It didn't help that the dialogue itself felt really uninspired and just plain boring.

I know it was just supposed to be an intro demo, but I have no care or interest to play whatever comes next.

Not even the best artwork or aesthetics and can save what ultimately comes down to a very boring visual novel with

virtually no redeeming qualities other than the aesthetics.

 

Should you play it for yourself? Eh, if you have the time, I suppose. Other than that, I can't recommend it.

 
I hope that the next episode ends being a lot more interesting than this, but you'd have to do
some serious convincing to make me play it. Cecillia, if you're reading this, know that I'm not trying

to be harsh or anything like that. This is nothing personal against you. I just hope you can take what

I've said, and just keep it in mind, even if you don't agree with me.

 

Later.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Miroku

[Jonnie91 1,149]

It also confused the hell out of me why permission was needed to do an LP,

Actually, I'm kinda the same with LP's....I find that sometimes, I just don't want to have an LP done of my game. Especially when it's something simple like a demo. The power of Youtube is ridiculous these days. i think you might find, that Cecillia WILL allow LP's once the game is actually done. As this "demo" is more of an interactive trailer, rather than an episode in my opinion. 

why there were so many warnings and copyright notices all over the place, but whatever.

I can see why you get a bit funny with the warnings, in 90% of RPG Maker Games that include this warning. it really isn't needed. but I assure you. as someone who is WORKING on the game. The warnings really are Necessary. The world of the internet is full of sensitive souls. Cecillia is actually just being fair in warning you regarding the VERY STRONG sexual content in Cecillia. I and a few choice others, KNOW that these warnings ARE necessary. 

 

The copyright notices, that she has posted are standard practice these days, considering the quality of the artwork that has been produced by Cecillia and Archaelon the temptation would be for users to steal the hard work that has been done by these artists. There are also times, where the beautiful quality art is confused to be from some Random Anime, I think you might find that she has posted this so that it is clear who developed the art, to people who just come by in passing. 

 

 

Eventually, I just stopped caring a little before the demo ended. I just flat out didn't care what happened

to any of these characters. It didn't help that the dialogue itself felt really uninspired and just plain boring.

It might help you to actually elaborate as to how it was uninspired and boring? It's interesting to see the different opinions on Cecillia, but still I am highly confused to WHY it was uninspired and plain boring. 

 

Should you play it for yourself? Eh, if you have the time, I suppose. Other than that, I can't recommend it.

 

I think it might do you some good to explain WHY people shouldn't play it? As for someone who is reviewing a game, you should give as much detail as possible. It just felt a bit lack luster of a review if I'm honest. I'm all for honest and critical reviews. but I think there is room for improvement with regards to your reviews. 

My suggestion to you, is to check out our Staff Reviewer Ocedic, his reviews are normally very well thought out and designed, he gives a more detailed and in depth review, and if you wish to mention the writing of another game, I would suggest improving your own writing first. 

 

Now I am far from the best writer. but I think taking a few leaves outta Ocedic's book would be highly beneficial to improving your more critical feedback. stating it's boring and unimaginative, if you explained WHY it is boring and unimaginative...it would improve this review, drastically. 

[Ocedic 249]

I think you have a lot of good feedback, Jonnie. I would also like to see improvements in formatting and a lengthier, more fleshed out review in the future. I do have some comments, however.

 

If you wish to mention the writing of another game, I would suggest improving your own writing first.

 

This feels a bit dismissive of some legitimate opinions that he has. The writing in the review isn't bad, it just comes across that way due to the casual vernacular and tone. For example, there are a lot of filler words like "ugh"; while they may not be the most descriptive words, they do manage to convey an associated emotion. Overall, I felt that he had a unique voice that needs a bit of polishing and some more elaboration.

 

I think it might do you some good to explain WHY people shouldn't play it?

 

While I definitely agree on the fact that he needs to explain why the dialogue was uninspired and boring, perhaps with examples, I feel the review itself reveals his reasons for why he thinks others shouldn't play it:

 

Speaking of the story...ugh. A lot of the opening dialogue (ESPECIALLY before the title pops up) is annoyingly
melodramatic to the point where I almost couldn't take it seriously anymore. Really, it was nearing Twilight levels
of melodrama. Thankfully, it let up as the demo went on. I noticed that there were a lot of names and terms being
thrown around with little to no explanation. Add to that, the story jumps around randomly. Right before you actually
had the chance to start wanting to care about these characters or what's going on, you get flung into a different situation. I also didn't get what was with all the random TV dead air sequences.

 

I mean, it makes me not want to play it, so I think that notion was conveyed well. Anyhow, just throwing my feedback/2 cents. Cheers.

[Kire 45]

I am actually a little puzzled why review an opening (EP0) , i mean , that's just judging the book by it's cover ...

Let her finish episode one and then go see ...

 

It's like playing a game opening and saying that you are not going to play it because  the opening wasn't a bang ...

 

And she already warned us that the game is kind of a VN drama of some sort ...

[Jonnie91 1,149]

This feels a bit dismissive of some legitimate opinions that he has

I have not dismissed his opinion, I merely dismissed the lack of reasoning, I myself have no issues with using a more casual vernacular. I did it in my own reviews, when I started working with RRR. I would quite like you to define in what way I dismissed his legitimate opinions? 

 

Although it defines the personal opinion into why a person shouldn't play a demo, it would do more justification to the reader to understand the reasons behind it. What made the game so bad you wouldn't even suggest it to others. 

He also failed to admit, that the game may or may not have been his style of project, and made it clear that he only downloaded it because: 

I had a free night where I was bored 

now I for one, prefer to play a game I know I enjoy when I'm bored, and if I am bored I would be looking to play a more interactive game, rather than a visual novel otome game which both developers made perfectly clear of which, if you were to look through the thread before reviewing the game. 

Ocedic, you yourself have come to me previously and said, you would not play/review a game that was not your style of play, as you felt that you could not give it a fair and unbiased review. 

 

The "issues" that is found with this project are actual issues with the Visual Novel Genre itself. Visual Novels, and in particular otome novels, which are primarily written for a more feminine audience. It would be unfair to  make a comment such as:

Eh, if you have the time, I suppose. Other than that, I can't recommend it.

if you are reviewing a game, you yourself would not normally, personally enjoy.

What I feel would have been a more professional approach would be to write something along the lines as: 

 

"This personally is not my style of game, i find the dialogue and characters to be boring and unrealistic because...etc etc etc. although this wouldn't suit my style of gameplay, This game is still in early development, and is also designed to be a Visual Otome Novel, which is designed for a female audience". 

 

it would define the reviewer, as more accomplished, rather than what it seems as if he is trying to give a negative review of a game that has received a lot of positivity.

[Ocedic 249]

I am actually a little puzzled why review an opening (EP0) , i mean , that's just judging the book by it's cover ...

Let her finish episode one and then go see ...

 

It's like playing a game opening and saying that you are not going to play it because  the opening wasn't a bang ...

 

Though I agree on this, and it's one of the reasons I haven't played/reviewed the title yet, the fact is the review is on the prologue itself and the prologue was released as something stand-alone. He didn't mention that the entire (unwritten) game was reflected in the review. Though it should be mentioned that the opening should be bang in the sense that it should engross and capture the reader.

 

And she already warned us that the game is kind of a VN drama of some sort ...

 

What does that have to do with anything? It's not like he didn't enjoy the title because it wasn't an RPG or wasn't what he expected. There's a recurring trend on this site where authors defend their works as saying people who don't like their work simply "don't understand it" or it must not be their type of game. Using that as some kind of immunity to criticism only inhibits progress.

 

 

Ocedic, you yourself have come to me previously and said, you would not play/review a game that was not your style of play, as you felt that you could not give it a fair and unbiased review. 

 

Again, I don't see anything in the review that indicates the author does not enjoy VNs or story-based games. I personally have stated in a few of my reviews that I played it out of boredom or having unexpected free time.

 

This focus on trying to discredit the author of the review by implying he must not enjoy Visual Novels or story is simply bad for everyone involved. I played the original demo (two name changes and the addition of many character/story designs ago) and shared many of the same criticisms. Unless the improvement in writing has gone up substantially since then, many of the same feelings I had back then were reflected in this review such as the comparisons to Twilight, which is how I can tell that he has high expectations like myself rather than someone who "doesn't understand visual novels." And before people scrutinize my credentials to make judgment on the game, yes I've played many visual novels and enjoy them immensely (when well-written).

 

By all means if you have feedback to improve his writing/reviews, and you've given a lot of good ones as I've mentioned, that is great. But there is definitely an undertone of "your review has x, y, z issues, so that means what it has to say about the game must be wrong."

 

 

"This personally is not my style of game, i find the dialogue and characters to be boring and unrealistic because...etc etc etc. although this wouldn't suit my style of gameplay, This game is still in early development, and is also designed to be a Visual Otome Novel, which is designed for a female audience". 

 

I don't see how that properly reflects his opinion. His issue was not with gameplay; in fact I don't see him mention gameplay anywhere. His issues were with the writing, and again it's a leap of assumptions that he doesn't enjoy the genre of games based solely on the fact that he didn't enjoy this particular title from the genre.

[Galv 1,387]

Everyone likes different things and will always have a different opinion to others. That's just how the world is. I don't think there's a game that exists where everybody loves it. There will be people that do and people that don't.

 

While a review will reflect this and involve opinion, I feel it should also try to look at things objectively. A few things that have been said above made me feel I should mention some of my opinions.

 

Gameplay wasn't mentioned anywhere - For a review on a game, I felt that talking about gameplay would be a very important part.

Also, I think to me the mention of 'melodrama reaching twilight levels' was what lead to the line of thought of 'the reviewer didn't like the genre'.

But perhaps it wasn't the VN genre in particular that was meant here. For example, I didn't like Twilight. I found it boring and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone to watch... but it has a huge following of fans. I've enjoyed other dramas so I'm not sure it's the genre that I don't like. I guess my point here is I would say Twilight is 'not my style of movie'. I don't know how else to say it.

 

I guess to sum up what I felt when reading this review - It was something the reviewer didn't personally enjoy, which there is nothing wrong with at all and definitely has a place. But to me, the review was too focused toward that and wasn't as objective as I think a review should be.

I think that might be what has sparked this discussion.

 

These are my opinions, I understand not everyone will agree and that's normal.

I'm not and I don't believe anyone else was trying to discredit the author by stating their opinions here.

[Neverward 210]

I think Galv pretty much hit it on the head. I wasn't sure what it was about this review that threw me so off. I had read it before ever playing the game, and then went to go play the game myself because I don't believe in taking others opinions and will usually want to form my own if I see someone so violently for or against something.

 

The negativity is very thick in this review and don't get me wrong, many reviews are negative and you can't expect people to love your game just because you love your game. As Galv said, everyone likes different things.

 

But I certainly wouldn't call this a good review. No only did it hardly touch on the game itself and the aspects which people on this community are interested in hearing about, it seemed to be mostly a venting of this persons dislike for the game. This forum is a place where people get together to help one another with their games, discover other games, and generally form a community around the fact that we just love this game maker

 

So when someone comes and makes a review like this where they KNOW the author of the game will be looking at it, usually it's for constructive criticism, helping the author to understand what you disliked about and why, and what aspects were enjoyable. The explanations here are very ambiguous, vague terms like 'annoyingly melodramatic to the point where I almost couldn't take it seriously anymore' sure lets us know you thought it was melodramatic, but that's all we know about for the entire dialogue. I would like to know what about it made it melodramatic to them, not just how strongly they disliked it.

 

Anyway I'm known to ramble, but in conclusion I just think that on this site especially CONSTRUCTIVE should be the most important part of the criticism. As that's what this community is all about.

[user975483 26]

Hey guys. First of all, thanks for all the feedback. I'm kind of tired at the moment, but I plan on replaying the game

and fleshing out the review once I get the chance. But first, I wanted to respond to some stuff.

Gameplay wasn't mentioned anywhere - For a review on a game, I felt that talking about gameplay would be a very important part.

I didn't mention gameplay because there really wasn't any gameplay, just story. For a VN, that's totally fine with me.

I wasn't expecting battles or loads of puzzles or anything like that. The only that could be considered 'gameplay' is the

ten-second section where you control Cecillia to walk to a door and open it. However, that's not gameplay. That's just walking.

 

The copyright notices, that she has posted are standard practice these days, considering the quality of the artwork that has been produced by Cecillia and Archaelon the temptation would be for users to steal the hard work that has been done by these artists. There are also times, where the beautiful quality art is confused to be from some Random Anime, I think you might find that she has posted this so that it is clear who developed the art, to people who just come by in passing.

The 'random anime' thing, I can understand. However, a copyright symbol really isn't gonna stop thieves. They can
just disregard it or crop it out of the picture. Of course, you can report them, but again, it's just a personal nitpick and nothing against the game.

 

I think it might do you some good to explain WHY people shouldn't play it? As for someone who is reviewing a game, you should give as much detail as possible. It just felt a bit lack luster of a review if I'm honest. I'm all for honest and critical reviews. but I think there is room for improvement with regards to your reviews.

Looking back on it, I agree. I thought that just the actual contents of the review would suffice my reasoning, but I should've probably

added some more to it, as well as fleshing out the actual review. 

 

if you wish to mention the writing of another game, I would suggest improving your own writing first.

I'm not sure if this was referring to the writing of the review or my writing (as far as my games) in general. 

Either way, you don't need to be a chef to know when something tastes bad, nor do you need to be a writer to understand boring writing.

 

It's like playing a game opening and saying that you are not going to play it because  the opening wasn't a bang ...

That feeling is actually justified. It doesn't have to be a 'bang' per se with lots of explosions and action, but it should

be interesting and hook the player in. I honestly don't think the game did that. (Cecillia, I highly recommend

watching Extra Credits' video on intros. It's definitely a good watch )

 

There are a good deal of really great games out there, both commercial and indie, that lose players

because the intro was crap or dragged on too much.

 

Again, I don't see anything in the review that indicates the author does not enjoy VNs or story-based games.

This. I actually LOVE story-based games. Story is actually the second reason I'll play a game (first being gameplay), but it differs

from genre to genre, which is why story comes first for VN's for me. 

 

Anyway, like I said, I'll play the game once more when I have the time (most likely tomorrow night), and revise the review a bit.

I already DO have some constructive ideas that could improve the game, but I'll save them for later.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Miroku

[Tharis 212]

We all know Cecillia is one of the best visually directed games there is on this site, don't believe me? check it's page views and numbers of replies. But the point that I think (whether it was conveyed properly or not) that the original reviewer was trying to get across, was not to just look at the positives of the game and say what a great game it is but to look at the game as a whole, break down where it falls short, expose that part and show the author, and give them something to really work on.

 

Now I love writing, I don't care if something is Melodramatic or not, if you are going for that tone, go for it. If an author doesn't care that the characters are simplistic or archetypal then when someone says that about the game it's hardly a criticism in the eyes of the writer, because that's what they were going for. Now if the author wanted more out of their characters than that it's really something the person doing the writing should look at first before turning back to the praise. A Critique is not just about how good something was it should be more about breaking apart what isn't good and fixing it. 

 

Ocedic has done this with my own game, twice, haha! and I loved every second of it because it shows me where my weakest points are, and those points are improving (slowly) but that's how it should work. Despite how much this might not make you happy to read what this review has to say cecillia I would at least take some of what he says to heart and look into how to better convey your message to the audience. Reading the way you talk about your characters I know you aren't going for what he's describing here.

[Ocedic 249]

 

Gameplay wasn't mentioned anywhere - For a review on a game, I felt that talking about gameplay would be a very important part.

I didn't mention gameplay because there really wasn't any gameplay, just story. For a VN, that's totally fine with me.

 

Yup, that confused me as well. What exactly do you expect for comment on gameplay? Overall, the ironic part is I'm sensing a lack of understanding of the genre from those who claim Miroku doesn't enjoy Visual Novels. To clear some misconceptions:

 

• The genre is not aimed towards a feminine crowd. In fact, a substantial portion of VN's are aimed towards men, hence why so many involve harem. Even if the feminine thing were true, discounting someone from being able to appreciate a genre of game based on their gender is not fair. If I said, "Well, this female reviewer referring to Call of Duty as shallow and trite just didn't enjoy it because FPS games are geared towards men" that would be condescending and downright offensive.
• Visual Novels are not defined by being melodramatic or with the same qualities as Twilight. I don't even know where to start with this. There's many visual novels with writing that is on par with most contemporary Western canon.
• As mentioned, VN's are usually light on gameplay. The fact that it was not mentioned was clear that there were no gameplay elements in the prologue thus far and anyone who has played a few VN's would probably know this rather than assume it was an important component left out in the review.

I recommend Steins;Gate, Chaos;Head, 999, Virtue's Last Reward, Ever17, Remember11, When They Cry as just a few visual novels that people apparently need to familiarize themselves with if they're going to discuss the VN as a genre in the context of a reviewer's preference. Heck, even the accessible Ace Attorney series would suffice to realize that the shortcomings of the title in question are not intrinsic attributes of the genre.

 

Overall, people need to learn how to take and process criticism. I've received harsh criticism on my games and writing in the past. If I saw one of my pieces of writing from five years ago I would probably laugh and cringe. Instead of brushing my detractors off as ignorant plebeians who couldn't comprehend my broad and grand vision, I swallowed my pride and learned from my mistakes. That's the way you grow as an artist rather than be coddled and sheltered from the harsh eye of judgment.

[user975483 26]

Also, if I may recommend another VN, I'd HIGHLY suggest playing To the Moon.

 

It's a VN/adventure game made in RPG Maker that's been praised by professional critics,

and is one of the best (and saddest) VN I've played. I'd think it'd be worth a look.

[Neverward 210]

I agree that there are great things to be taken from any critique, no matter how much or how little you agree with it. No matter if you have some all-caps review where all they say is 'YOUR DIALOGUE WAS CRAP I HATED IT' you can at least think 'hmmm so some people don't like the dialogue' and just take it as an opportunity to review it and see what you might improve no game, or really ANY kind of work, is ever perfect.

 

I think that what I didn't like was the lack of substance in the review, like I said, but I do look forward to seeing a more in-depth constructive review on the game from you Miroku, I'm sure Cecillia would agree

[Jonnie91 1,149]

The genre is not aimed towards a feminine crowd. In fact, a substantial portion of VN's are aimed towards men, hence why so many involve harem. Even if the feminine thing were true, discounting someone from being able to appreciate a genre of game based on their gender is not fair. If I said, "Well, this female reviewer referring to Call of Duty as shallow and trite just didn't enjoy it because FPS games are geared towards men" that would be condescending and downright offensive.

You misunderstand me Ocedic. I do not mean Visual Novels are for females, heck I like VN's 

Cecillia has been written as an Otome Game, which is a game targeted towards a female market. This is what I mean. I am not stating that males cannot enjoy it. but it SHOULD be reference that it is DESIGNED to be emotional.

[user975483 26]

Cecillia has been written as an Otome Game, which is a game targeted towards a female market. This is what I mean. I am not stating that males cannot enjoy it. but it SHOULD be reference that it is DESIGNED to be emotional.

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying. So just because it's designed for females, that means it's supposed to be emotional? :/

It's fine that Cecillia is, I'm just wondering that's what you mean. 

 

Also, I totally could be playing the game now...but screw it, I wanna enjoy the rest of my summer vacation.

[Galv 1,387]

Also, I totally could be playing the game now...but screw it, I wanna enjoy the rest of my summer vacation.

We all understand you didn't like the game - I really don't see the need for a comment like this. The developer knows your thoughts from your review so she can use them to improve - this comment doesn't seem like a nice thing to say.

 

I think if you don't enjoy a game then you should stop playing it. If it's as boring and bad for you as you keep saying I don't know why you sat through to finish the demo let alone want to play through it again.

[user975483 26]

That was actually a (failed) joke. Instead of playing the game and fleshing out the review, I'm watching random YouTube videos. 

It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I want to play it again to create a more in-depth review and constructive review

(and for memory's sake). But I can see where you're coming from.

 

I really need to go to bed...

[+ Tuomo L 116]

I am actually a little puzzled why review an opening (EP0) , i mean , that's just judging the book by it's cover ..

 

 

No it's not, that's like saying you couldn't review the Hobbit before the 2nd part movie comes out. 

 

 

Besides, what I've gathered it's not all that short and it was released, if it wasn't for judging on its own merrits why was it released on its own merrits instead of being integrated to chapter 1?

 

 

Judging a book by the cover would literally have me check out the title screen and decide not playing it based on it or giving it a score based on it. 

 

 

 

The genre is not aimed towards a feminine crowd. In fact, a substantial portion of VN's are aimed towards men, hence why so many involve harem. Even if the feminine thing were true, discounting someone from being able to appreciate a genre of game based on their gender is not fair. If I said, "Well, this female reviewer referring to Call of Duty as shallow and trite just didn't enjoy it because FPS games are geared towards men" that would be condescending and downright offensive.

You misunderstand me Ocedic. I do not mean Visual Novels are for females, heck I like VN's 

Cecillia has been written as an Otome Game, which is a game targeted towards a female market. This is what I mean. I am not stating that males cannot enjoy it. but it SHOULD be reference that it is DESIGNED to be emotional.

 

If it is designed to be emotional but instead invokes boredom and feelings of melodrama, wouldn't that mean by this reviewer's point of perspective that notion is somewhat lost?

 

 

 

For the record, this is not a bad review. A bit rough on the edges but gets the work done. You could have given samples on the melodramatic dialogue and stuff like that, now I have to take your word for most of it. Screenshots and such would have spruced it up too.

[estriole 326]

i know Cecillia is one of the game with the best visual and have lots of fans and follower. so reviewing bad for this game could be a little hard (warning: people might stab you with butcher knife when you got back from work latter)... .
but i know the reviewer means good by reviewing Cecillia games. and i agree with mr big t. that actually is not a bad review. just need to polish it a little bit and throw out some personal taste. and better choice of word would be better. but we can accept it since it's his first review (opened up topic he's starting and found this is his only review ).

in cecillia defense. the demo is still intro. and even maybe before intro (since it's episode 0). so the story might not make sense if we don't follow the thread. also since the game too focused on visual detail (and sound). maybe the story got a bit neglected (at least for episode 0).

btw i personally agree with the password. i look around and don't find it for long time... (because the first post is too crowded). i want to play the game but got shooed away unless i have the password. . it's not a good choice since it can deter person who want to give feedback for the game. and also kinda give impression that we need to beg to play this super awesome game. (just my personal opinion. don't take it offendly please...)

 

 

edit: just want to clarify. the password method i complained above is the old password method. (look for clues hidden in first post). but Cecillia state that she

change the password method to sending her biodata before she gave the password. this new method is for preventing minor to play the games. i personally like this new password method lots better. and i support it 100%

Edited October 28, 2013 by estriole