Murder Diary | Myserty, Ace-Attorney style game

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

I'm guessing the main thing you may be confused is what Bunni mentioned. (This is all assumption, so I apologize if this is inaccurate.)

 

Bunni mentioned that RPG maker is, well, to make RPG GAMES. Games that focus more on battles, stat growth, items, weapons, armors, and mostly story. Here in the forums we got lots of things to support the resources already available in the default system. There's extra graphics for items and environment. There's scripts to give the system of the games more variety. And there's even resources on other small features, such as Window looks, battlers, and much more. And best of all, most of these resources are waiting at the Resource Showcase, for FREE!

 

What got even me confused a bit was the new engines mentioned: Ren'py and Pywright. These sounds like the engines you can use to make this idea of yours an easier reality. I can't say much about these, but you can check them out for yourself and see if these engines are what you're looking for.

 

Also, Bunni mentioned that your games sounds like something you want to do on your own, which has its perks and con.

 

All - and - all, It sounds like you're at a mind block. You're confused or lost and are not sure why. This happens, when we just can't plan something and our thought process comes at a complete stop. Don't worry about it. It'll go away. It happens to the best of us.

 

Just remember this.

 

Don't give up just because you don't have assistants, it's entirely possible to make a game all by yourself!

 

-Bunni89

Again, dedication is what make games. Just keep on going, or keep on asking for assistance. Both will take you the next step forward into your Murder Diary.

I actually dont see either helpful... They dont have what i need

[+ Novem 344]

Well what is it that you need then?

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Well what is it that you need then?

 

> To be able to wander around the environment

> Collect evidence of Objects, Terms/Facts, and Suspects

> Battle with the Sanity Bar

[+ Novem 344]

Oh, well, as long as you shape your gameplay around those factors I think RPG Maker should be just fine for you then.

 

The battle events could be tricky though. I myself find them somewhat unreliable. I can never seem to get them working properly, and considering speech is going to be a critical factor in these "battles" that could be a problem.

 

I think the biggest thing you're going to have to account for though is just how long these sanity meters last. You're going to have to create huge dialogue trees to account for every possible variation of choice. Battles may not be the best option, you might want to use some simple scripting for a UI that represents a sanity variable and then having the "battle" take place as an event instead. Not only is creating branches much easier outside of battle events, but you get some extra flexibility as far as that's concerned, and you can add some sort of timeouts for the sanity bars so that the conversation doesn't go beyond what you've written without finding a loser.

 

Either that or you're going to have to make sure every single variation of choice ends with a loser. And that could be a LOT of work, and the more cases and suspects involved, it will become increasingly complex.

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Oh, well, as long as you shape your gameplay around those factors I think RPG Maker should be just fine for you then.

 

The battle events could be tricky though. I myself find them somewhat unreliable. I can never seem to get them working properly, and considering speech is going to be a critical factor in these "battles" that could be a problem.

 

I think the biggest thing you're going to have to account for though is just how long these sanity meters last. You're going to have to create huge dialogue trees to account for every possible variation of choice. Battles may not be the best option, you might want to use some simple scripting for a UI that represents a sanity variable and then having the "battle" take place as an event instead. Not only is creating branches much easier outside of battle events, but you get some extra flexibility as far as that's concerned, and you can add some sort of timeouts for the sanity bars so that the conversation doesn't go beyond what you've written without finding a loser.

 

Either that or you're going to have to make sure every single variation of choice ends with a loser. And that could be a LOT of work, and the more cases and suspects involved, it will become increasingly complex.

It was all gonna be evented. Battle was just the term I used

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RPG maker can do all this, and some more!

 

Free movement? Obviously check.

 

Collect items? Check.

 

Sanity Bar? Edit the MP or TP bar in a way to make it a Sanity Bar, and CHECK.

 

The Ace Attorney System is whati find most troublesome. But I think you CAN implement such a system.

(This is all guesswork, so pardon if this is inaccurate)

 

With the use of Show Text (Obvious), Show Choices (Object, Testify, or Nothing), and Conditional Branches, an Ace Attorney-ish game is definitely plausable. Maybe a Script will be needed to select items, but I doubt so. However, as Obrusnine said, this will make some LONG Event lists.

 

But it's plausable. (Heck, I fell like making a small Attorney game now. =D)

[+ Novem 344]

 

 

It was all gonna be evented. Battle was just the term I used.

 

Ah, that makes sense.

 

 

 

However, as Obrusnine said, this will make some LONG Event lists.

 

Yes I really recommend you don't pursue a project like this unless you're willing to do A LOT of tedious work with dialogue trees and self-testing each possible variation for bugs and errors. And the events will be HUGE and really hard to digest. I've already had to do some of this with Breathwind, and Conditional Branches are extremely tedious, and testing them for errors is even more so. It can definitely be difficult.

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Ok guys, this game is already on standby... My computer just crashed out of no where

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANKS TO THOSE PROGRAMS YOU RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!

[Bunni89 85]

Woo, great, thanks for blaming us again... XD We didn't deliberately link you to bad programs and we wouldn't have reccommended them if they didn't work for us. I'm not sure why they crashed your machine.

All sorts of programs have different requirements, did you check before downloading them? For me, my old computer wouldn't run Ren'py because the graphics card wasn't very good- for some reason it has pretty big requirements for something that just shows pictures and text. But then again my old computer crashed from RPGMaker too!

And I don't know about the phoenix wright maker thing cos I haven't tried it myself. I'm not really interested in making PW games.

Maybe try Novelty? It's another visual novel maker that works similarly to Ren'py. But like.. try going to forums for those gamemakers if you have configuration problems. You'll probably find people who know a lot more about how to make them work for you.

Edited November 13, 2013 by Bunni89

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Woo, great, thanks for blaming us again... XD We didn't deliberately link you to bad programs and we wouldn't have reccommended them if they didn't work for us. I'm not sure why they crashed your machine.

All sorts of programs have different requirements, did you check before downloading them? For me, my old computer wouldn't run Ren'py because the graphics card wasn't very good- for some reason it has pretty big requirements for something that just shows pictures and text. But then again my old computer crashed from RPGMaker too!

And I don't know about the phoenix wright maker thing cos I haven't tried it myself. I'm not really interested in making PW games.

Maybe try Novelty? It's another visual novel maker that works similarly to Ren'py. But like.. try going to forums for those gamemakers if you have configuration problems. You'll probably find people who know a lot more about how to make them work for you.

I cant try anything else! My computer wont turn on! Right after I downloaded Ren'py!

[+ Novem 344]

You should consider you may have downloaded it from the wrong source. There are a lot of people out to trick others on the internet.

[Bunni89 85]

... how are you even posting this then ...

But okay NOPE that's impossible. I've never had it crash and brick my entire harddrive just from downloading the program and not even installing it yet!

Did you get it from the official site or from somewhere else that might have given you a virus? If you definately didn't get a virus from where you downloaded it, then it seems you already had something wrong with your computer and it's just a coincidence that it crashed at that time.

Cos seriously unless the latest Ren'py update is hidden malware then I have NO CLUE what just happened. And none of the Ren'py downloads I've ever done have ever harmed my computer in any way so it'd be pretty freakin weird if they suddenly started sending out viruses 'n shit.

 

EDIT: Haha, lol Obrus ninja'd me and said the same thing in way less words! Also I am dumb. Of COURSE you're posting on your mobile or something. *smacks forehead*

 

EDIT: oh and I forgot that americans call it a "cell phone". Yeah, that. XD

Edited November 13, 2013 by Bunni89

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

You should consider you may have downloaded it from the wrong source. There are a lot of people out to trick others on the internet.

I went to the main websites!

... how are you even posting this then ...

But okay NOPE that's impossible. I've never had it crash and brick my entire harddrive just from downloading the program and not even installing it yet!

Did you get it from the official site or from somewhere else that might have given you a virus? If you definately didn't get a virus from where you downloaded it, then it seems you already had something wrong with your computer and it's just a coincidence that it crashed at that time.

Cos seriously unless the latest Ren'py update is hidden malware then I have NO CLUE what just happened. And none of the Ren'py downloads I've ever done have ever harmed my computer in any way so it'd be pretty freakin weird if they suddenly started sending out viruses 'n shit.

 

EDIT: Haha, lol Obrus ninja'd me and said the same thing in way less words! Also I am dumb. Of COURSE you're posting on your mobile or something. *smacks forehead*

 

EDIT: oh and I forgot that americans call it a "cell phone". Yeah, that. XD

Us Canadians say Mobile

[Tsarmina 2,612]

How about "cellular device"?

I don't think that such a program, virusless, would be able to complete kill your computer like that O_o (superprogram much?) Maybe it was just a timing coincidence? You might want to pursue this matter further, there's got to be a more logical explanation.

[Bunni89 85]

Well then there's pretty much no possible way that the program caused it, unless somehow the latest update is bugged when no other updates have ever been bugged. I'd download it myself to make sure but I'm on a strict internet allowance and can't really afford to downlaod a second copy of something I already have.

Can anyone else confirm for me that the site's working fine for them?

And Crow can you send us the link that you downloaded Ren'py from? So we can make sure that it's the right one and not some sort of scam site that gave you a virus.

[Tsarmina 2,612]

Ah yeah Bunni, that's a good idea ^-^ I can't download it myself because my laptop is so buggy and has random firewalls everywhere, etc. :\ However, if the latest update was bugged, I'm pretty sure someone would've brought it up or something O_o

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

http://www.renpy.org/

[Bunni89 85]

Just thinking... did you click the right download link? The first one on the left is for windows and the other two are for mac and linux. If you downloaded the wrong one then it may have caused problems perhaps?

Cos that's definately the right site and I can't see any problems there. *shrug*

Maybe you should try calling tech support for your machine or getting someone who knows how to fix computers? I think this is probably something to do with your hardware rather than the program. And I've reached the limits of my knowledge, sorry. I'm a game creator, not an electrician! XD

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Just thinking... did you click the right download link? The first one on the left is for windows and the other two are for mac and linux. If you downloaded the wrong one then it may have caused problems perhaps?

Cos that's definately the right site and I can't see any problems there. *shrug*

Maybe you should try calling tech support for your machine or getting someone who knows how to fix computers? I think this is probably something to do with your hardware rather than the program. And I've reached the limits of my knowledge, sorry. I'm a game creator, not an electrician! XD

I had called earlier. I'm sending my laptop to get fixed

[Bunni89 85]

Good luck, I hope it turns out well! And I hope it wasn't Renpy that wrecked it.

[Jonnie91 1,149]

 

Well what is it that you need then?

 

> To be able to wander around the environment

> Collect evidence of Objects, Terms/Facts, and Suspects

> Battle with the Sanity Bar

All of these is available from this site alone.

 

1. A sanity script has just been released by Riff as part of last month's ReStaff here

2. You can move around the environment by default in RPG Maker, so that's already solved

3. You can have these done very simply with picking up items using events, there is really no need for over-complicated eventing You should however have a basic knowlege of eventing, including Variables and Switches, there are plenty of tutorials all over the internet regarding this! A quick search will bring it all up for you

 

 

THANKS TO THOSE PROGRAMS YOU RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!

That has absolutely nothing to do with RenPy. It is a respected VN maker, and has been around for a long time. It would NOT cause your computer to crash and burn. This is due to something completely seperate to the situation.

 

I also don't appreciate you blaming other members for your own mistakes. I own RenPy and use it myself, (albeit not for quite a while) and there is nothing on it that would cause any issues or problems with your computer. You have most likely downloaded a virus onto your own computer, not relating to RenPy. Either that or your computer, is rather old and has finally given up..or something simple.

Might I suggest getting a antivirus software, when you get your computer fixed. To ensure this doesn't happen again.

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

 

 

 

 

Well what is it that you need then?

> To be able to wander around the environment

> Collect evidence of Objects, Terms/Facts, and Suspects

> Battle with the Sanity Bar

All of these is available from this site alone.

 

1. A sanity script has just been released by Riff as part of last month's ReStaff here

2. You can move around the environment by default in RPG Maker, so that's already solved

3. You can have these done very simply with picking up items using events, there is really no need for over-complicated eventing You should however have a basic knowlege of eventing, including Variables and Switches, there are plenty of tutorials all over the internet regarding this! A quick search will bring it all up for you

 

THANKS TO THOSE PROGRAMS YOU RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!

That has absolutely nothing to do with RenPy. It is a respected VN maker, and has been around for a long time. It would NOT cause your computer to crash and burn. This is due to something completely seperate to the situation.

 

I also don't appreciate you blaming other members for your own mistakes. I own RenPy and use it myself, (albeit not for quite a while) and there is nothing on it that would cause any issues or problems with your computer. You have most likely downloaded a virus onto your own computer, not relating to RenPy. Either that or your computer, is rather old and has finally given up..or something simple.

Might I suggest getting a antivirus software, when you get your computer fixed. To ensure this doesn't happen again.

My computer is quite new AND has an anti-virus

[+ Novem 344]

Anti-virus isn't infallible. Computers are really sensitive equipment. They break, it's kind of a reality you have to accept. Every computers going to need to get fixed eventually! Sometimes they stop working when they're new! That's what warranties are for,

 

Just saying that you should back up everything and make sure to be ready for your computer to break down, because it could happen any time.

[CrowTheAlmighty 27]

Anti-virus isn't infallible. Computers are really sensitive equipment. They break, it's kind of a reality you have to accept. Every computers going to need to get fixed eventually! Sometimes they stop working when they're new! That's what warranties are for,

 

Just saying that you should back up everything and make sure to be ready for your computer to break down, because it could happen any time.

Yeah, I'm getting it backed up, then sending it back for a fix

[+ Novem 344]

Hey, if you think about it. If you back everything up and it breaks down during your warranty period you're actually saving money on fixing it later! Hahaha!