Upgrade Issue Thread

[AceOfAces_Mod 34]

I was able to post on my thread. I'll keep an eye out for any other broken threads.

[Lord Vectra 414]

4 hours ago, AceOfAces_Mod said:

I was able to post on my thread. I'll keep an eye out for any other broken threads.

Ace is on the look out 

[Kayzee 4,032]

12 hours ago, Rikifive said:

To be honest I'm not sure, as that probably would be kind of tricky. At least at the moment, I have no idea how to approach that.

First thing is figuring out what when wrong in the first place. Why did it mess up? I am not sure what would cause this. I assume it mis read the character encoding, but It might be something like forgetting to turn it to binary mode before moving the old database via ftp or something. Next, I wonder how the databases are stored? If it's something like MySQL or something with well know tools available, it might not be too hard to write a shell script for it. If not, I have no idea how you would do it.

Edited July 21, 2017 by KilloZapit

[+ Takeo212 1,079]

Just stopping in to say thanks.

@Rikifive Yep, the blue dot/star takes to the newest unread comment. Wasn't aware of this - I just thought the dot/star was to let you know if you commented within it, not to actually take you to the comment itself. Thankies~

Also to update; my permissions are now fixed. Thanks to whoever updated this  

[Rikifive 3,411]

22 hours ago, Takeo212 said:

Also, I still can't reply to either my own topic or AceofAces. Did you also update the "sponsor" member group?

Heh.. well.. overlooked that.  It should be fixed now.  

 

16 hours ago, AceOfAces_Mod said:

I was able to post on my thread. I'll keep an eye out for any other broken threads.

Okay, yell at us if needed.  

 

10 hours ago, KilloZapit said:

First thing is figuring out what when wrong in the first place. Why did it mess up?

There always were troubles with unicode. For example it was possible to put them in the topic title- it worked, but when you got a notification from that topic, it was corrupted in your notification box.
Now when it was converting everything, I believe it just couldn't interpret these and ended up throwing corresponding UTF-8 code.

 

11 hours ago, KilloZapit said:

Next, I wonder how the databases are stored? If it's something like MySQL or something with well know tools available, it might not be too hard to write a shell script for it.

I'm afraid this is a question for system admin.

 

Batch decoding UTF-8 back to text could work, but I don't think that spell is available.  Also, you never know if that would not mess up other things~ I guess it will be just better to leave it to users to update their broken contents... It's not posted all over the place after all, unless somebody liked to use these a lot like this - ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) ..  

 

7 minutes ago, Takeo212 said:

@Rikifive Yep, the blue dot/star takes to the newest unread comment. Wasn't aware of this - I just thought the dot/star was to let you know if you commented within it, not to actually take you to the comment itself. Thankies~

You're welcome.  

[+ Takeo212 1,079]

I have an issue with how spoiler tags work currently.

When you create a (spoiler) tag it makes the spoiler box, but it removes the (/spoiler) close tag. This makes things really messy, especially when I had to edit a post and add more images to that spoiler tag. Also, I couldn't seem to type after the images anymore. My scroll bar kept going to the top of the post and even when I used my mouse to click after the images or use my keyboard arrow keys, I just couldn't get to the end of the topic to edit after the spoiler post.

Which also brings me to my next problem;
I spent a minute trying to figure out how to post images. Once I found it, it soon became tedious using that method. I had to add 4 images to my post, and having to manually select it from a drop menu (albeit short) it got rather annoying and slow. Not to mention I accidentally clicked "submit reply" instead and had to go edit my post because of this. Is it possible to get the "add image/picture" shortcut back to the overhead shortcut bar-thingy? If I'm having this kind of annoying time trying to edit a 4 image post - I'm scared to even go attempt to mess/add anything to my resource topic...

[Amysaurus 734]

I saw someone mention it in the Discord server, so I thought I'd check it myself - I guess something is causing the CAPTCHA to not load for people trying to sign up:

Spoiler

 

[+ Asharonapaul 276]

there is no preview bar for gallery on home page anymore. this makes me sad.

[Rikifive 3,411]

5 hours ago, Takeo212 said:

When you create a (spoiler) tag it makes the spoiler box, but it removes the (/spoiler) close tag. This makes things really messy, especially when I had to edit a post and add more images to that spoiler tag. Also, I couldn't seem to type after the images anymore. My scroll bar kept going to the top of the post and even when I used my mouse to click after the images or use my keyboard arrow keys, I just couldn't get to the end of the topic to edit after the spoiler post.

Not sure if that happens in every single ipb4 forums, but it's better to avoid manually adding spoiler tags.
If you'll put spoiler tags manually, then the boxes are initialized during posting, which usually messes up things. It's preferred to use the spoiler button from the toolbar to initialize them in the editor, before posting.

Now the thing with not being able to type past spoilers/images is kind of tricky. That's how poorly designed the editor is.
If you'll click the spoiler button- it will make a spoiler box and will add an extra line at the end, to allow you go past that spoiler. However, if you'll more the spoiler to the bottom, it will not leave any lines below it, so it will be impossible to get past it. 

In quotes, you can double enter to exit them and continue typing, but it doesn't work with spoilers. That's a poor design, that's true.

 

To 'escape' that - make few lines above the spoiler/quote and drag that box above, which will put the lines below it, which will allow you to type further.

If you'll hover your cursor over the quote/spoiler, you'll notice a small icon with directional arrows in the upper left corner of the spoiler/quote. Click it to drag the box up/down.

 

5 hours ago, Takeo212 said:

Which also brings me to my next problem;
I spent a minute trying to figure out how to post images. Once I found it, it soon became tedious using that method. I had to add 4 images to my post, and having to manually select it from a drop menu (albeit short) it got rather annoying and slow. Not to mention I accidentally clicked "submit reply" instead and had to go edit my post because of this. Is it possible to get the "add image/picture" shortcut back to the overhead shortcut bar-thingy? If I'm having this kind of annoying time trying to edit a 4 image post - I'm scared to even go attempt to mess/add anything to my resource topic...

Hmm.. That's weird.

The text editor should automatically replace direct image links with images after a short delay.
There's also that note displayed after pasting a link to the image:

Quote

 Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

If it will not recognize the link during editing the post, it should embed the image after posting.

Perhaps it also depends on few other things- for example I'm not sure how does that work on mobile devices.

 

Let me check if there's a button for that to add...

- nope. There's no such a button.
Actually it's possible to add custom buttons, sec..

There you go- I did something, though not sure if that will work correctly. A new custom button with poorly designed icon.

 

3 hours ago, Amysaurus said:

I saw someone mention it in the Discord server, so I thought I'd check it myself - I guess something is causing the CAPTCHA to not load for people trying to sign up:

  Hide contents

 

I saw that too, though had to go to work..
Umm.. No idea what's up with this and not sure if I'm the one, who can fix this, but at least I'll take a look...

It should be fixed now.

 

3 hours ago, Asharonapaul said:

there is no preview bar for gallery on home page anymore. this makes me sad.

Added.

Now it's displayed at the bottom of the home page. I think that it will blend better there, yell at me if I'm wrong.

[Lazybones 0]

Purple Phantom, here.

I got locked out of my account. I've even reset my password and it still won't let me in. I was able to get in for about ten minutes before it kicked me back off. I've tried using other computers but alas, it didn't work.

[Kayzee 4,032]

18 hours ago, Rikifive said:

There always were troubles with unicode. For example it was possible to put them in the topic title- it worked, but when you got a notification from that topic, it was corrupted in your notification box.

Now when it was converting everything, I believe it just couldn't interpret these and ended up throwing corresponding UTF-8 code. 

UTF-8 codes for the UTF-8 codes? Yeah that seems like it would make some sense.

18 hours ago, Rikifive said:

I'm afraid this is a question for system admin.

Batch decoding UTF-8 back to text could work, but I don't think that spell is available.  Also, you never know if that would not mess up other things~ I guess it will be just better to leave it to users to update their broken contents... It's not posted all over the place after all, unless somebody liked to use these a lot like this - ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) ..

...Which nearly everyone did. The problem with relying on users fixing stuff is that a lot of users don't exactly have a list of every post they used Unicode in, and a lot of users don't come to the forum anymore at all. I won't hold my breath on it being fixed though. It's a rather minor problem in the long run since 99% of this forum is likely to be ascii anyway and most of the rest are silly decorations. My only real worry is there is no reason to assume there aren't at least a few old Japanese scripts or other problems that may pop up that no one will be willing or able to fix.

Edited July 22, 2017 by KilloZapit

[Rikifive 3,411]

5 hours ago, Lazybones said:

Purple Phantom, here.

I got locked out of my account. I've even reset my password and it still won't let me in. I was able to get in for about ten minutes before it kicked me back off. I've tried using other computers but alas, it didn't work.

What is exactly happening? Hmm.. You should be able to log-in, I don't see anything wrong with your account.

 

3 hours ago, KilloZapit said:

...Which nearly everyone did. The problem with relying on users fixing stuff is that a lot of users don't exactly have a list of every post they used Unicode in, and a lot of users don't come to the forum anymore at all. I won't hold my breath on it being fixed though. It's a rather minor problem in the long run since 99% of this forum is likely to be ascii anyway and most of the rest are silly decorations. My only real worry is there is no reason to assume there aren't at least a few old Japanese scripts or other problems that may pop up that no one will be willing or able to fix.

That's true, but if these are old posts, then most likely nobody cares about these.
Eventually users can use UTF-8 decoder to read/fix some of the broken content.

I'd give it a try if batch editing would be possible and even if- that also would take a while, due to amount of unicode characters.

 

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In the meanwhile; Discord Server has been added to the menu (the one at the top).

[Kayzee 4,032]

4 hours ago, Rikifive said:

That's true, but if these are old posts, then most likely nobody cares about these.

Eventually users can use UTF-8 decoder to read/fix some of the broken content.

I'd give it a try if batch editing would be possible and even if- that also would take a while, due to amount of unicode characters.

It's really not that big of a deal, but the problem with 'most likely' is that it leaves open a small possibility that someone will care someday, a possibility that gets higher the more time passes. And even if it never comes to pass, it will be like a million little scabs or scars that will never heal right. In time people will get used to it and forget they are there, or they might be hidden by new clothing. But they will always be there, for those that look. And we can live with that, certainly. If nothing can be done or if it's too much effort, then so be it.

...And now I am reminded of someone I haven't really thought about in a while, and a tragic past long buried. It's funny isn't it, that a child marked by tragedy before I think they could even talk or understand, who grows into a well-adjusted adult and puts that tragedy behind them (If indeed it was ever really real to them and not a story told about them), is still cursed to be thought of in relation to the tragedy. I am pretty sure I never asked her about it, and she seems too cool headed to really care that much, but I can imagine how unfair that might be. And I feel guilty too, because I never can quite remember what she looks like (maybe because I see her so rarely), yet I still remember the scars. And I think also maybe she has red hair? Wouldn't surprise me, lots of her relatives do.

That didn't have anything to do with anything, I wasn't trying to make any kind of point, I just got distracted by my thoughts. Sorry.

Anyway back on topic. As I think I implied before, the best way I can think of to do it is to make a shell script or small program to run on the forum's database (probobly should be backed up first) doing the same thing as the utf-8 decoder (if that works, donno if it has been tested yet) on database text, ignoring anything that has been updated after the data the forum update went live. Which would require some serious system knowledge and SSH access at least. I have no idea how it would be done otherwise or what kind of capability admins here have to make batch edits without direct database manipulation.

Edit: Yeah looks like utf-8 decoder works in 'UTF-8 interpreted as Windows-1252' mode. Neat! Though I wonder if it's actually ISO-8859-1 which is almost the same as Windows-1252 but not exactly I think? Ether way, a simple mapping should handle it.

Edited July 22, 2017 by KilloZapit

[Lazybones 0]

6 hours ago, Rikifive said:

What is exactly happening? Hmm.. You should be able to log-in, I don't see anything wrong with your account.

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In the meanwhile; Discord Server has been added to the menu (the one at the top).

It keeps telling me my password is incorrect. I've tried this several times (I've even gone into Opera and looked at my password for this site) and it keeps telling me it's incorrect. :/

[PhoenixSoul 1,404]

I wonder how many more people are having Purple Phantom's issue...
This is why I've shied away from RM and have focused on Clone Hero (now in v.11 Alpha)...

[Rikifive 3,411]

@KilloZapit Well either way I don't have access to that kind of magic, nor have enough of intelligence to use that spell, so don't ask me.  

 

8 hours ago, Lazybones said:

It keeps telling me my password is incorrect. I've tried this several times (I've even gone into Opera and looked at my password for this site) and it keeps telling me it's incorrect. :/

That's really weird - your account seems to be fine. It doesn't have any restrictions regarding this applied. Basically the account is working.

I'd suggest giving resetting the password another try- if that will fail once more, I'll try to reset your password myself and see if that will help at all.

You'll get your account back; No way you'll lose that.  

[Kayzee 4,032]

10 hours ago, Rikifive said:

@KilloZapit Well either way I don't have access to that kind of magic, nor have enough of intelligence to use that spell, so don't ask me.

Such deep magic can be mastered by few, I know. I myself could probobly do it, if I had access and time to poke around. I do have a bit of experience with this kinda thing, even if that experience is at least a decade old. Even so I wouldn't trust myself to do it without a fair bit of experimentation on a non-live version of the database and would want a backup.

But honestly? I don't think that sort of drastic hackish manual fiddling shouldn't be necessary except as a desperate last resort, and I just don't know enough about the forum software to offer any other solution. For all I know it could be just that you have some of the MIME types for some of the files wrong. Maybe it's a common problem with an easy fix? I have no idea. At this point I am just throwing out possibilities.

It's not a problem I am gonna lose sleep over. I just can't help being a bit curious about it.

Edited July 23, 2017 by KilloZapit

[Lord Vectra 414]

22 hours ago, Lazybones said:

It keeps telling me my password is incorrect. I've tried this several times (I've even gone into Opera and looked at my password for this site) and it keeps telling me it's incorrect. :/

Are you on the phone? If so, that may be the issue because I can't login through my phone, but I can login through my PC.

[Purple Phantom 453]

16 hours ago, Rikifive said:

That's really weird - your account seems to be fine. It doesn't have any restrictions regarding this applied. Basically the account is working.

I'd suggest giving resetting the password another try- if that will fail once more, I'll try to reset your password myself and see if that will help at all.

You'll get your account back; No way you'll lose that.  

Thank you so much!  I finally have it back! (And a backup account, so we have that, too.)

 

2 hours ago, Lord Vectra said:

Are you on the phone? If so, that may be the issue because I can't login through my phone, but I can login through my PC.

Nope. I don't have a phone. Weird bug, though.

[Rikifive 3,411]

7 hours ago, KilloZapit said:

Such deep magic can be mastered by few, I know. I myself could probobly do it, if I had access and time to poke around. I do have a bit of experience with this kinda thing, even if that experience is at least a decade old. Even so I wouldn't trust myself to do it without a fair bit of experimentation on a non-live version of the database and would want a backup.

If I could test things on a non-live version, where any stupid things wouldn't cause any harm, then believe me, I'd blow up everything to see if anything works.  Trial and error is also a good way to achieve something after all.  

 

7 hours ago, KilloZapit said:

But honestly? I don't think that sort of drastic hackish manual fiddling shouldn't be necessary except as a desperate last resort, and I just don't know enough about the forum software to offer any other solution. For all I know it could be just that you have some of the MIME types for some of the files wrong. Maybe it's a common problem with an easy fix? I have no idea. At this point I am just throwing out possibilities.

It's not a problem I am gonna lose sleep over. I just can't help being a bit curious about it.

I also believe, that there are tricky ways to make it automatically convert these, but I honestly have no idea, as I haven't even seen how things look like. ...Not like toying with database was something I should be interested in here.  

I've tried to google that problem and there actually is something regarding UTF-8 + Database + Converting, but I think it's something absolutely different though. I believe it would be best to ask on their support forums, but again - It's not something I should be interested in, so I'll not be poking my nose, where I shouldn't.

 

I get what you mean- It's not a big issue, yet it's kind of messy, that's true. Either way I'm kinda curious myself.

 

3 hours ago, Lord Vectra said:

Are you on the phone? If so, that may be the issue because I can't login through my phone, but I can login through my PC.

She stated, that she tried to login with different computers.  

But now that you pointed that out- is there any issue regarding mobile version? I'll try to login using my mobile device to see if that works...

It seems that it worked for me- it even allowed me to stay logged in on both, PC and mobile at the same time..

 

1 hour ago, Purple Phantom said:

Thank you so much!  I finally have it back! (And a backup account, so we have that, too.)

You're welcome!  Glad you've managed to get it back.  
And the backup account- It's possible to merge these two accounts into one, so that your posts made with the other one would be 'yours'. At least that's how that should work.

[+ Takeo212 1,079]

Just confirming,  I use mobile frequently to sta- ahem, check the site and havent had any issues. Im also logged in on my phone and home pc at the same time.

So yea, mobile seems to work fine 😀

EDIT
 How do you make a status update? I've checked out a few tabs within the site and can't see a dialogue box anywhere. Create+ also doesn't contain the status update thing. I feel dumb for not being able to find it xD

Edited July 24, 2017 by Takeo212
I keep pressing ctrl+enter instead of shift+enter so my posts keep getting prematurely finished...

[kaz 1,338]

At the top of the status update feed-"whats on your mind"tab

[Rikifive 3,411]

11 hours ago, Takeo212 said:

EDIT
 How do you make a status update? I've checked out a few tabs within the site and can't see a dialogue box anywhere. Create+ also doesn't contain the status update thing. I feel dumb for not being able to find it xD

yup, as kaz said, you can add a status update form the main page - in the Recent Status Updates Box.

Another way is to go to your profile. You'll find that option in the activity tab.

Aaaand you should be able to see that option in the +create menu...

 

I'm suspecting, that you just have that disabled. If that's the case, there's absolutely no need to feel dumb. x3 It may be easily overlooked, as it's a bit tricky to come up with this.
Go to your Account Settings and click 'Edit Profile' on the right -

At the top, you'll find 'Enable status updates' option. Make sure, that it is enabled:

[+ Asharonapaul 276]

@Rikifive we can see your email in that image

[Rikifive 3,411]

3 minutes ago, Asharonapaul said:

@Rikifive we can see your email in that image

Oh noes, I'm exposed!

Good catch, thanks.