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mI've been desperately searching for resources in order to make my western project on VX Ace.  So far, I've had no luck at all.

I've already got an artist for the faces, all I need is someone to do the pixel art for the characters.  It's important that the work not be to much as I'm not charging for this game.  Essentially, what I'm planning to do is pay for someone to make free to use resources for others who want to make Western titles (or even just include a cowboy character in their game.), which I will then post in a topic on this site as free resources with proper credit given.

Because of this, I'd like to propose something unique, and I'm hoping that it will work out.  I can afford to put forth about $50 for a sheet of character sprites (That's 8 characters).  I can do this once every two weeks.  I'll pay for up to 4 full sheets of wild west characters.  If anyone else wants to pitch in to increase the amount per sheet, I encourage it!  I even think that for a person with the right skills, this should be pretty easy.  Mainly, we're just missing certain resources in a character generator.  Someone who knows how to make and edit those resources could probably crank a variety of these out pretty fast.  I'm looking for cowboy hats, bandanas, trench coats, sheriff's stars, Native American garb, etc!  If you can make some fantasy races with these things, that would be great as well (I'd be particularly interested in some orcs in Native American garb.)

Anyway, I hope plenty of people see this and contribute, either as an artist or a patron for this art.  If this works out well, it won't be the last time I do this.  Now that the idea has occurred to me, having a mini crowd fund for game art sounds great!

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I recommend having busts of your designs commissioned first, then have someone sprite up the character sets to match the bust and face materials flawlessly. You may not be having busts done, but I'd still have the faces finished first.

Dig around old ReStaffs and project-friendly resources for hats and other sprite apparel you can add to your generator library, or edit to suit your needs.

I am decent with RPT edits, but not much beyond that, unless you are wiling to use Loose Leaf sprites. If LLs are on the table, contact me to see some example work at no cost or obligation (I love making LL sprites, and care little about credit, only people's projects).

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7 hours ago, That One NPC said:

I recommend having busts of your designs commissioned first, then have someone sprite up the character sets to match the bust and face materials flawlessly. You may not be having busts done, but I'd still have the faces finished first.

Dig around old ReStaffs and project-friendly resources for hats and other sprite apparel you can add to your generator library, or edit to suit your needs.

I am decent with RPT edits, but not much beyond that, unless you are wiling to use Loose Leaf sprites. If LLs are on the table, contact me to see some example work at no cost or obligation (I love making LL sprites, and care little about credit, only people's projects).

So, I'm not sure what it means to have "loose leaf" sprites.  I've googled it, but it didn't really clarify it for me.  If it's a different art style, is it different enough to stand out to much against normal character sets when walking around near NPCs in towns?  Will it work in Ace?  If it won't stand out in a bad way, I'd be happy to show you what I'm working with so far and see what you can do.

As for generator parts, I've been trying to find anything western to no avail. What's worse, a lot of the links I've tried to follow for resources are broken now because Ace is rather old.  If you know of a good site for such resources I'd be eternally grateful!  If I could make these myself with a generator, I'd love it.  I even gave in and went looking to buy official packs, but all that's available is samurai or modern stuff.

Pictures of my characters are being made as we speak, but I'm also hoping to create a set of generic western characters for NPCs as well.  My artist is working on the second to last character and should be done with him in a day or two based on her usual pace.  Actually, I'm constantly surprised at how fast she churns out the sketches and such that she makes, and the work is great!

Personally, I love to give credit even when it's not strictly necessary, mainly because I believe that good work should be recognized!  That being said, if you actively don't want to be credited, that's your prerogative.  

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Loose Leaf sprites were a taller, more detailed sprite style similar to Macks but with a less bubbly, rounded aesthetic. But most importantly, they fit the scale of most RPT style Ace graphics better than chibis. There used to be a website one could visit and through a modular compiling interface on your browser, create you own custom sprites. This was so awesome that nearing the end of the website's lifespan, some brave soul ripped with library into a 3x4 modular design set.

 

Here you can see one of my characters in both chibi and modular LL form, standing around various objects in the RTP style.

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The difference in height, quality, and particularly scale is downright sobering.

Chibis have the height and scale of children against 90% of mapping assets. Loose Leafs seem to have been designed to correct scale logic for devs who want a more stern, organic character and sprite aesthetic.

 

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Thanks!  That was very helpful, particularly with the visual thrown in.  So, these could probably fit fine, but they'd stand out.  This would be fine for main characters I'd think as it's natural to have them stand out.  If we can still get some generics made, that would be even better as it will allow people to make entire games with them.

Edit:  new info:

 

Found an artist which is willing to do super cheap headshots.  Currently waiting to see how they'll respond to the large scale orders in the format I want.  If so, I'll post them here for artists who want to do the pixel art for them.  

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The great thing is, you can compile your own sprites in any image editing program. I use Paint.net to compile my own. It is possible to sprite an entire game with the asset folders, fully customizing each aspect of each sprites hair, clothing, skin, etc.

 

LLs are free for commercial or non-commercial use. The head portion of and LL sprite is about the same size as a chibi, so a lot of hairs and head accessories can be ported to an LL sprite, provided their usage laws line up with your project.

 

I'd be happy to throw together some specific examples this week of what can be done with the assets in the western American style.

 

The one constant worry with the use of Loose Leaf's is that some non-humanoid sprites like animals end up falling  out of scale. Cats? Dogs? Snakes, chickens, birds? All fine.

Cows? Horses? lol. . . But it's not impossible, just needs some extra sprite assets. I can help you look for clean-to-use horses and cattle should you decide to use Loose Leafs.

 

 

 

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Could you make cowboys and/or native americans riding horses that will fit the format?  I could see that being useful for any Wild West game.

Edit:  Another thought I had is if you can use the format for "Large Monsters" or "Gates" in order to put them in at a size that more accurately represents how tall they'd be.

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Update:  I have someone working on the pixel art for my characters.  It is gonna cost me $30 for each character sprite sheet, which will mean this part will be rather over budget.  The artist will do work that would be available for commercial work for $40 per character sprite sheet.  If anyone can beat the price, please let me know.  The work will come slowly since I can't afford more than one per week.

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Well my price is free. And you can work me to death because it makes me a better pixel editor, and gives you a better product.

 

I can give you some quick samples of what I can do with sprites. I need some time for the horse mounts.

White Hat Rustler:

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Black Hat Sheriff

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The white and black hat sprite were done literally just now, rather hastily to get you some samples out. 

First Nations Warrior: (This was not made as a First Nations warrior, just fits the aesthetic as an example)

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This was an older design for a D&D style fantasy world. It was a Sun Elf who I was modeling heavily after First Nations cultures.

 

These were some sloppy, generic samples. Working with some direction on sprites for a game, I would take more time for attention to detail and customize each sprite fully.

 

These are some generic samples of my work with Loose Leafs in the past.

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Those all look amazing!  I could see the First Nation warrior could probably make a few different parts I need with few modifications.  Green skin and a little fang on the mouth and suddenly it's an Orcish Tribal from my game!

Since you're working for free, should we take this part of the discussion to the forum for free resources?  The Mods here seem really laid back, but I don't want to be disrespectful and get us in trouble.

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